VUK JOVANOVICH: Mark Phillips i Cathy O'Brien, program kontroli umysłu MK-Ultra CIA

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poświęcony sposobowi, w jaki próbuję powstrzymać fenomenalny faszyzm i spędzam SLE mój
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raport z dochodzenia, pracując nad różnymi tematami, jednym z nich był
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Tematy Kur Walhan, które zajęły mi siedem lat życia i bardzo głębokie badania w
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rzeczywistość wojny światowej i tuszowanie jednego z największych zbrodniarzy wojennych nazistów
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który również zrobił wielką karierę w programowaniu kontroli umysłu, a także zrobił to samo
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Zainteresowanie i mam wielką przyjemność przedstawić Państwu dzisiaj, Panie i Panowie, osobę, która jest ofiarą programu C
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ty Brian, którego dziś podziwiam, jej słodki dom w stanie Tennessee
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i uh Mike Mark Phillips jako osoba, która uratowała życie C, i moje pierwsze pytanie brzmi,
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złapać swoją pannę młodą i opowiedzieć nam kilka słów o tym, kiedy się angażuje
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to z mojego projektu i ile miałeś lat, kiedy zaczynałeś z tym, ja
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Urodziłem się w wielopokoleniowej rodzinie opartej na kazirodztwie, a mój ojciec był
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wykorzystywał mnie seksualnie odkąd pamiętam i często się tym chwalił
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podmieniał sutek mojej matki swoim penisem, kiedy byłem jeszcze niemowlęciem i
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mój ojciec stworzył dysocjacyjny
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zaburzenie tożsamości spowodowane wykorzystywaniem seksualnym, zaburzenie tożsamości asocjacyjnej, które było
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nazywane zaburzeniem osobowości wielorakiej i definiowane jako obrona umysłu przed
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trauma, która jest zbyt straszna, by ją pojąć, chociaż nie mogłem jej zrozumieć
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że to, co robił mi mój ojciec, było złe, mimo że ból i duszność, których doznałem z jego powodu,
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nadużycia seksualne były na tyle straszne, że doprowadziły do ​​powstania zaburzenia osobowości wielorakiej
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i to było zaburzenie osobowości wielorakiej, zaburzenie dysocjacyjne tożsamości, jak się je teraz powszechnie nazywa, dlatego
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był wybranym lub głównym kandydatem do rządu CIA MK zmienił zdanie
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projekt kontrolny moja kompartymentalizacja
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pamięć była czymś, czym bardzo się interesowali, a kiedy miałem 6 lat, mój ojciec już z niej korzystał
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mnie w dziecięcej pornografii i zostałem przyłapany na wysyłaniu tej dziecięcej pornografii pocztą w USA, kiedy to się stało, był
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skontaktował się z nim szef lokalnej mafii w Michigan, który był również mocno zaangażowany w politykę Michigan i USA
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polityka Gerald Ford ten sam Gerald Ford, który został prezydentem
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Stany Zjednoczone Gerald Ford przyszedł do mojego ojca i zaoferował mu immunitet
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oskarżenie, jeśli sprzedałby mnie do projektu, który mój ojciec uważał za
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wspaniały pomysł, czuł, że rząd sankcjonuje jego znęcanie się nad dziećmi
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i poszedł dalej i sprzedał mnie do projektu kontroli umysłu CIA, powiedz mi coś, co...
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rozmawiałem z różnymi ludźmi o George'u Geraldzie Fordzie i... i wtedy...
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jak dyskutować z różnymi ludźmi na ten temat, co jest twoim zdaniem dowodem na to, że Gerald Ford mógłby być
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Czy jesteś zamieszany w pornografię dziecięcą i jesteś członkiem zorganizowanej przestępczości? Czy istnieją jakieś istotne dowody, które mógłbyś potwierdzić?
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albo możesz sobie przypomnieć, bo on śledził swoją karierę, ty ...
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nawet gdy miałeś 20 lat, a nawet gdy miałeś 30, nawet Gerald Ford, skąd wiesz o jego karierze, Gerald Ford, uh, jeśli
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Mogę to przedstawić w Niemczech. Ford ma reputację wśród członków
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U egzekwowania prawa Służby Parkowej, um, nawet, uh, rozumiemy, uh
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osoby, które przekazały informacje z Secret Service i
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Departament Skarbu, eee, wszyscy przekazali pewne uwagi pewnym członkom Kongresu w tej sprawie
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do działalności Geralda Forda i jego skłonności do, hm, naprawdę dziwnych rzeczy
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i dziwne nawyki seksualne, to jest powszechnie znane
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wśród elity, w jej kręgach towarzyskich w Waszyngtonie i wokół
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że Gerald Ford jest uh ...
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eee, jego początki w polityce, eee, znasz jego żonę Betty Ford
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stał się chronicznym narkomanem i alkoholikiem i tak naprawdę wykorzystał to, otwierając się na to,
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jest znany jako Centrum Betty Ford w Palm Springs, które rzekomo leczy uzależnienie od alkoholu i narkotyków
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um w gwiazdach i um elicie U, uh, osobach społecznych, zarówno w
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Stany Zjednoczone i za granicą, ale reputacja Geralda Forda, choć nieudokumentowana,
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z pewnością dzięki Kathy, na której widać go z dziećmi, dorosłymi lub kimkolwiek innym, jego reputacja jest
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niezwykle dobrze udokumentowane i dobrze znane wielu politykom i
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organy ścigania, które przedstawiły dokumentację pomocniczą
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jeśli chodzi o dokumentację pomocniczą, czy możemy uzyskać jakieś informacje na ten temat lub
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kopie tego, co mamy, mamy słowne wsparcie od niektórych członków uh uh z
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federalne agencje ścigania, takie jak ja,
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mówiąc, że nie, nie, ale jak FBI, które zgodziło się, eee, w części, na
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zeznawać przed Kongresem, jeśli uda nam się przeprowadzić legalne śledztwo w sprawie Kathy
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O'Brien twierdzi, że jest oficer FBI o nazwisku „były”
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Funkcjonariusz FBI, który był szefem biura w Los Angeles w Kalifornii
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Biuro FBI tam, jego imię to Ted Gunderson. Ted Gunderson omawiał...
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Reputacja Geralda Forda i kilka raportów medycznych na temat Teda Gunnersona
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jest zaznajomiony z tym od klientów, którzy zgłosili, że byli ofiarami nadużyć ze strony
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Gerald Ford, więc Ted Gunderson jest szczery, jest na emeryturze i jest jednym z
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Niewielu jest w stanie o tym teraz mówić, więc oczywiście będę mógł się do ciebie dostać, znam Teda Garona bardzo dobrze
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cóż, spotkałem go kilka razy i mógłbym uzyskać więcej informacji na temat tego, co robią grupy
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bardzo trudno to znaleźć, jeśli chodzi o byłego prezydenta Stanów Zjednoczonych
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Twierdzi, że bardzo trudno jest zdobyć twarde dowody, ponieważ gdy tylko je pokażesz, zostają one odebrane
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ze względów bezpieczeństwa narodowego, stąd powód, dla którego nie jesteśmy w stanie zapewnić dostępu do Twojej widowni, um, uh
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twarde dowody, ponieważ wykorzystujemy te twarde dowody, które zdobyliśmy, mając nadzieję, że możemy
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przedstawić je Kongresowi i formalnie coś w tej sprawie zrobić
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Wróć do Caddy'ego, do ciebie, uh, ty, wspomniałeś, że generał Ford przyszedł do twojego domu i się przedstawił, uh
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Czy był tam w charakterze, uh, jak powiedziałeś, uh członka zorganizowanej przestępczości?
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zajmował się pornografią i jak w tym czasie nawiązał kontakt z tak wyrafinowanymi operacjami CIA, jak
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kontrolować mojego ojca, czy to była jego prywatna sprawa, zanim zaczął zajmować się przestępczością zorganizowaną, eee, to była jego sprawa od jakiegoś czasu
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czas, w którym mój ojciec zajmował się pornografią dziecięcą w moich najmłodszych latach, ale moja matka też była
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wielopokoleniowa w CS, cierpiała na zaburzenie dysocjacyjne tożsamości w wyniku wykorzystywania seksualnego w dzieciństwie i jej
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mój brat, mój wujek Bob Tannis, również pochodzący z okolic Michigan, był bardzo ważną częścią
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tego nadużycia i z pewnością stanowił on powiązanie między moim ojcem a Geraldem
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dla mojego wujka Boba Pannisa, uh, był wywiadem Sił Powietrznych USA i również twierdzi, że jest
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pracuje dla wywiadu w Watykanie katolickim, który jest
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Jezuita, więc innymi słowy, eee, zdobędziemy z tego pewne informacje, które...
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aspekt uh więc Mark uh jak uh dlaczego
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to dziecko znęcało się nad ludźmi, mam na myśli dzieci takie jak Cy, uh, gdzie to, wiesz?
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obiekty do takiej kontroli umysłu i jak Ty jako ekspert mógłbyś to opisać, eee… B musimy cofnąć się w historii
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tylko trochę, w latach 30. Adolf Hitler badał dwie metody
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aby opanować lub uzyskać kontrolę nad światem przede wszystkim poprzez
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urządzeń nuklearnych, które w istocie zniszczyłyby jego zwycięstwo
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Łupy zwycięstwa i, hm, również przechodzą przez kontrolę umysłu i co, hm, Adolf Hitler
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odkrył, że dzieci północnoeuropejskich czarownic opierają się
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rodziny, rodziny, które były zaangażowane w satanizm i inne formy przemocy związanej z krwawymi traumami, eee, nadużyciami rytualnymi, eee, bardzo
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powszechnie spotykane w katolicyzmie i niektórych innych typach chrześcijańskich systemów wierzeń
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odkrył, że wśród dzieci występuje ciekawe zjawisko
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dzieci, które były maltretowane dosłownie od urodzenia, rozwinęły...
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jakieś niezwykłe zmysły, wzrok 44 razy lepszy, ostrość wzroku
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Innymi słowy, mogli zobaczyć poprawę praktycznie z tyłu
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głowa, eee, on mógł, mógł sobie wyobrazić użycie tej jednej rzeczy tylko dla niego
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special SS forces um um in addition to that he also o found out that these
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children had photographic had developed photographic memories and um uh along
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with a host of other uh psychological as well as psychiatric changes that seem to
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occur when people are exposed to horrific um abuse he took those studies
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um or actually had the fellow by the name of Heinrich himler uh uh began to delve deeper and
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deeper into the research until he form formulated a plan to literally uh
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genetically encode uh these children through interbreeding among these uh
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incest uh B based families um I guess plainly
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spoken uh V these these people uh were abused therefore they
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abuse their own children and their children abuse their children and you develop uh generation after generation of these
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abused children um which of course grow into adults what we what we have found
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is that our government the United States became interested in it about the same period of time uh our our Intelligence
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Officers that were in serving in Germany at that time began feeding us information back that Hitler was going
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to breed a super race and uh inside this super race was going to be a nucleus of
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individuals ual that Hitler or somebody else could have absolute control over now these people would have high IQs
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much higher than the average person and it was not so much um that they were smarter it's the fact that they had been
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abused since birth uh Kathy O'Brien's IQ is above average most of the people that
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we're dealing with here their IQs are much higher than average and this is as
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a result of not the inner breeding or the multigenerational effect it has
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something to do with the abuse that she incurred her brain literally was forced to to use more and more of itself until
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she is developed um some some incredible uh but not so incredible uh
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characteristics uh such as photographic memory this um from my perspective it was like um a compartmentalization of
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memory where the abuse was compartmentalized in a certain part of my my brain so that the rest of my mind
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could function normally as though nothing had happened and I believe that's why it's termed the Mind stain
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defense to trauma too horrible to comprehend but this compartmentalization has amnesic
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barriers around this photographic memory and it was this compartmentalization of
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memory that the government was very much interested in and utilized throughout the Reagan Bush Administration in
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particular for me to be programmed to carry out specific um criminal covert
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operations which they wanted kep secret as well as to deliver messages verbatim
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to different government leaders that were involved in implementing the new world order through mind control of the
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masses I have a question uh I present your case to the various uh editors of
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of big magazine in Europe and uh also editors of the various publishing houses
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they found a big interest but in the same time I've faced quite a skepticism because of the fact that uh something
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what is very well known to you and you're talking very spontaneously it was very difficult
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topic for them to comprehend and that's why I'm here today to uh to give them
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more details and more accurate information and details regarding those
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topics when you're mentioning that you was used uh first for sexual purposes
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can you tell us the beginning of your sexual abuse and what is your recollection on that who was the first of users that you faced in your
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childhood and gradually how it's turned on to your other kind of utility they
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found for you which is also sending messages and dealing with drugs well my
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my primitive Behavior had been confused when my father was substituting his penis for my mother's nipple because my
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my sexual experience went into a realm of of innate survival instincts such as
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as eating um food would do and my father was my first sexual abuser and from from
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from there he prostituted me to various local policemen uh local Mas local
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politicians such as us Congressman guy vanderjack who later went on to had the
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Republican National committe that put George Bush into the office of president but my Uncle Bob was my Uncle Bob Tannis
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was also one of my primary abusers from a very early
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age uh my next question is uh uh the involvement of uh implementation and how
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the Nazi uh came to this country uh uh he was lecturing uh
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over uh 30 times in various communities including police right yes uh we've
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spent the last five years um Kathy and I have been lecturing uh with primarily
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psychiatrists psychologists mental health caregivers and of course uh state
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federal and as well as uh local police groups all over the country we're um
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entitled to teach in 11 states for continuing education credits for these
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particular persons and um to answer your question about where all these
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scientists came from the United States government uh had in 19 uh
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47 started a a project paper clip um Project Paperclip was the importation
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of Nazi and fascist scientists uh that had scattered after World War II out of
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Niemcy i Włochy na całym świecie, a my ich tu sprowadzaliśmy, mieliśmy naukowców zajmujących się napędami i umysłami.
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naukowca lub psychiatrę, którego masz w bibliotece, widziałem ostatnio książkę, eee, napisaną na ten temat, prawda?
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tak, pani z Waszyngtonu, która jest bardzo znaną osobą, eee
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reporterka Washington Post, zdaje się, że nazywa się Linda Hunt
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była korespondentką w Waszyngtonie przez wiele lat i zajmowała się badaniami nad wolnością informacji
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argives i faktycznie wymyślił informacje o Projekcie Paperclip i uh
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ludzie tacy jak Veron Bron, ci bardziej znani, o których większość ludzi wie
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naukowiec zajmujący się napędem, który pomógł w zbudowaniu NASA, Narodowej Agencji Aeronautyki i Przestrzeni Kosmicznej
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od podstaw, eee, on wraz z wieloma innymi naukowcami został do tego doprowadzony
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kraj w okresie 43e i um
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zostali potajemnie umieszczeni w naszych instytucjach edukacyjnych, naszych szkołach wyższych
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uniwersytety, przepraszam, i do, uh, uh, dużych korporacji, laboratoriów badawczych,
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jak NASA i Departament Obrony, jeśli wspomniałeś o ponad 42 latach, to znaczy, że...
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daleko za II wojną światową tak, tak, on to wyjaśnia w jakiś sposób, w jakiś sposób
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łącząc te dwa narody w sposób, w jaki Niemcy i Stany Zjednoczone, nie sądzę, żeby kiedykolwiek się rozdzieliły
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Tak naprawdę, nie mówię tego lekceważąco, ale nie wierzę, że nazistowskie Niemcy przegrały wojnę. Wierzę, że...
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Musieliśmy przenieść nasze operacje ze swojego kraju do tego kraju, o którym wspominałeś ostatnio
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i mieliśmy właśnie jechać do tego miejsca w stanie Alabama, gdzie mieszkają szaleńcy z NASA i
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miejsce, o którym wspomniałeś, jest domem dla wielu nazistowskich naukowców, czyli
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nazwa miejscowości i Huntsville w Alabamie to siedziba NASA,
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Napęd rakietowy, uh, uh grupa naukowców i U NASA jest o, uh, o
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100 mil od Nashville w Tennessee, gdzie teraz jesteśmy, a NASA stała się
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dom ogromnej liczby niemieckich naukowców, z których wielu to...
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Dostarczono im nowe tożsamości, przeszły, eee, eee, całkowite zmiany
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zrobione w ich historii, więc nie można ich znaleźć, kim tak naprawdę byli, cóż, większość tych naukowców, którzy
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byli zaangażowani w kontrolę umysłu U i napęd rakietowy w latach 40. i 30. XX wieku
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za czasów Hitlera albo nie żyją, albo są na emeryturze, są starzy, bardzo, bardzo starzy, ale ich...
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dzieci, które zajęły ich miejsca, faktycznie pracują w placówce w
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Hunsville w Alabamie, znane jako NASA, ale także wielu zbrodniarzy wojennych
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Niemcy, uh, nie mieli nikogo zaangażowanego w żadne badania, uh, uh, mają tu swój dom, tak, tych, którzy nadal żyją
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Nadal wielu z nich mieszka w okolicach Huntsville, o, bardzo ciekawe
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zjawisko, w które sam byłem zaangażowany w długim procesie uzyskania sądu allheim
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złożyć wniosek o rozprawę i spotkałem ludzi, nawet w departamencie sprawiedliwości, jednego bardzo, jak ich nazywam
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organizacja osioł Hotes wśród departamentu sprawiedliwości tak, kto śledził tego zbrodniarza wojennego z wieloma problemami i jednym
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Książka „Zdrada” ukazała się niedawno, dwa lata temu, a jej autorem jest Al Rosenal.
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był szefem Wydziału Kryminalnego Departamentu Sprawiedliwości, który w tamtym czasie zajmował się specjalnym śledztwem w sprawie zbrodniarzy wojennych
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i opisywał, jakie problemy ma ta organizacja
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śledzenie tych przestępców nawet w Stanach Zjednoczonych, co wydaje się bardzo, bardzo nietypowe, ale
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nic niezwykłego, po tym jak usłyszałem twoją historię, cóż, to prawda, oczywiście, kiedy Linda Hunt
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pisząc swoją książkę, również napotkała wiele przeszkód ze strony Departamentu Sprawiedliwości
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no cóż, natknęła się na, no cóż, członków spółdzielni, a także ludzi, którzy próbowali ją od tego odwieść
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badania teraz większość tych badań oczywiście została odtajniona, eee, lub większość
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informacje, na których opierała się w swoich badaniach, zostały odtajnione i są dostępne, jeśli ktoś
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jest chętna, żeby to wykopać, dobrze jej poszło, to bardzo ciekawe zjawisko, teraz mieszkam w Stanach dla mnie
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Mieszkając przez jakiś czas pod presją komunistyczną, byłem bardzo szczęśliwy, że mogłem przyjechać do kraju
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co uznałem za kwintesencję demokracji, wolności i wszystkiego innego
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które słyszymy codziennie od większości amerykańskich polityków, teraz...
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stawiamy czoła zjawisku, jakim jest posiadanie ludzi, którzy nazywają siebie Patriotami i którzy nazywają siebie
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sami ludzie bardzo boją się przyszłości czegoś, co nazywają
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Porządek I wojny światowej, który był taki sam, jak powiedziano wcześniej przez George'a Busha, który...
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przypomina wielu ludziom w Europie Nowy Porządek Świata, który wprowadził Hitler. Jak połączyć te dwie rzeczy?
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Cóż, martwi nas to, że kontrola umysłu jest dziś stosowana, ponieważ
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był w nazistowskich Niemczech jako narzędzie Nowego Porządku Świata, wiesz, Adolf Hitler był
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tak naprawdę druga osoba w historii, która wspomniała o fakcie, że myślała, że
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jedynym sposobem na przetrwanie tej kuli ziemskiej lub ludzkości byłoby
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jeden porządek świata, jeden rząd kierowany przez jedną osobę, cóż, Adolfa
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Hitler wanted to ensure that that singular person uh be in absolute control so he thought uh
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that by having human beings that he could totally manipulate their minds
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externally uh in other words his puppets or the people like Kathy O'Brien people
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who had been conditioned from birth uh and trained from birth to uh accept
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orders and to act on on those orders without any social conscience these are the ones that Adolf Hitler envisioned
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would be his puppets of control for the world well the first person I might add
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was Nero uh in Rome and Adolf Hitler was second George Bush was the third person
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in history to stand before uh U society and say the words new world order but
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mind control vuk is only a tool it's just simply a tool and an indicator a
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social indicator of what all of us can expect in in the not too distant future
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unless this information is released to the public where it belongs Kitty uh you
23:40
mentioned and your part of the book which was very uh very interesting for various uh people that I was introducing
23:45
your book to uh your knowledge because you was a person inside and I will ask
23:52
you uh something that people don't have in your book because you're not professional writer and there was maybe
23:58
your first first book that you're writing and I hope not the last one uh can you give us some more accurate
24:04
details about your knowledge of people that claim to be World War all you met
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you met a lot of people you was in the White House you was in various military based can you tell us some more
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information how you can determ those people that claim themselves to be a member of that
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order there was a organization that was referred to as the
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order of the Rose and this was an elite group that was at the very top of what I
24:32
was aware of for the implementation of the new world order through mind control of the masses should you not mention the
24:38
United Nations um just recently adopted the rose as their official
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flower this this order of the Rose by everything I know was attached to the
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United Nations George Bush of of course began with the United Nations he
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continued his work in the United Nations through his um good friend and um associate meline
25:02
Albright meline Albright is now our un embassador or not our un but the United
25:08
States's un Ambassador and um this order of the Rose
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was not so much another um organization like we hear about like the Illuminati
25:21
or the Masons or something like that but instead was an was used as an indicator
25:28
to to each other amongst those at the top that they were involved in implementing the new world order through
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mind control of the masses um George Bush was involved in the order of the
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Rose and um Bill Clinton was involved in the order of the
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Rose what is your personal personal uh contact and contents to that topic you
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met with Z personally you thought you saw them very various symbols which remind people of that Rose collar and
26:02
everything else yes they would wear a rose as an indicate indicator to each other that they were a part of the order
26:10
of the Rose and when it's happened and how you describe that when you saw that particular phenomena um for example at
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the White House I was at a White House cocktail party and during the Reagan
26:24
Administration and do remember the year and the members anything uh like month and something like that it was I believe
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1985 to 886 and at that time the prime minister
26:39
of Canada Brian Malon was brought to the White House he was um being honored at
26:45
this particular cocktail party he wore the rose bud um on his lapel to indicate
26:53
that he was a part of this order of the Rose um you saw him you Al that party
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there was some kind of a closed party closed Society without presence of the journalist I believe right I'm not aware
27:06
of any journalists that were there there were quite a few people that were at this particular cocktail party not all
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of them wore roses the ones that did certainly indicated to me since I knew that they
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were part of this order of the Rose he was down the party who was George Bush mine
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Albright and Ronald Reagan uh Senator
27:30
bird to to name a few um one interesting thing uh there was a presidential
27:36
helicopter that crashed in the state of Maryland in 1993 I believe in April uh I'm sorry June of
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1993 that was a helicopter that bush used uh with some frequency and one of
27:49
the odd things about it was instead of having the presidential Crest embroidered into the seats it had a
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rose now Kathy O'Brien had reported uh a rose that was embroidered into the
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leather seats of a helicopter in 1990 to the FBI when she gave her testimony but
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it wasn't until 1993 that we actually got corroboration of that through a news report when a when a u hel a
28:17
presidential helicopter actually crashed uh with of course no no one in it uh of
28:22
any importance uh as far as politically goes but uh nevertheless the helicopter did crash and photographs of the seats
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were taken so that photograph available that's yes and the rose indicator was um
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that I saw in George Bush's helicopter was black this this black rose was an
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indication of death the red rose was an indication that I would be used in uh
28:53
sexual mode um for prostitution purposes
28:59
the white rose was an indicator that messages were being delivered when
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baby's breath was surrounding the rose or the rose bud the it was an indicator
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that um my daughter KY was usually involved in that particular operation which meant that she was going to be
29:20
sexually abused as well these were her cues uh these were visual cues that the
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person delivering them would be privy to Bo but no one else and and these um in the
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course of using these particular cues they would they would simply touch the rose to access a particular program
29:41
message or to program one in that wasn't all that it took to set the program
29:47
there was so much that was done at the onset so much trauma that I witnessed
29:54
that had caused my mind to be prime for
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accepting program and this base program was already laid from the base program
30:06
other programming specific programming the delivering of messages was then
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added or the particular sexual perversion that had to be fulfilled was added and then they were ready to be
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accessed and when it was time to be accessed they would simply touch the you just mentioned that you was testifying
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in front of FBI uh yes what kind of testifying was that we're talking about um in
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1989 I brought forward uh the Diaries of her um controller or Handler Alex
30:38
Houston uh because these Diaries contained a number of uh large cash transactions among uh high-ranking
30:45
officials both within the justice department in the entertainment business as well as some politicians including B
30:54
uh KY you have in front of you a list of the people that you collected after your
30:59
recollection of the everything that happened after you was rescued by um Mark Phillips uh people that you
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uh you can say and swear the member of the road can you give me this list and tell me what people are on that list and
31:15
you also having list of old drug traffickers that you was acquainted with
31:21
you met them and you work with them yes this is a partial list that I've compiled it was just a matter of um of
31:28
listing some names for convenience purposes for people um investigating and
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I refer to as a perfect Traders list because these are certainly traders of our country that are involved in
31:41
implementing the new world order under this group that they refer to as the
31:46
order of the Rose and the order orders
31:51
from the rose were orders from George Bush that's not to say he was the very H
31:58
person in this effort but he certainly was in this um the aspect of it that was
32:04
going on in our country Canada Mexico and throughout the Caribbean his one of
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his primary people that were was working under him in the UN capacity was meline
32:16
Albright and meline Albright was part of the order of the rose that was involved
32:21
in the Caribbean um operations and even had an office in the organiz ation of
32:28
American states office in Washington DC you visited her can you tell me in more details how you came in touch with her
32:35
and you told me that he also she also uh sexually harassed you in that office at the time can you tell me approximately
32:41
time frame and when it's happened and when you visited who brought you to this meeting to with her and what was the
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purpose of that meeting um this was in I I believe it was 1985 I I have a little more difficulty
32:54
with um exact dates and times because as a uh uh programmed multiple in essence
33:01
it was as though it were one long day to me I I was not aware of time my age or anything else but um meline Albright was
33:08
at the White House cocktail party that was being thrown for Brian malony uh
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prime minister of Canada who is also order of the Rose and um main purpose
33:20
for you being there was what was for prostitution to Brian Mal roone at that time but anytime I was in Washington DC
33:27
it was usually multi-purposed as was this particular trip and after having
33:33
been prostituted to Brian Mal roone that can you explain me the situation more in more details uh who brought you there
33:40
and what was the room that was used for that reason also in White House or he was guest in White House he slept in
33:45
White House yes yes he had a room in the White House at that time and I was
33:51
brought into a White House cocktail party for the purposes of making contact
33:57
with Brian Mal roone for um prostitution later that evening in his room in the
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White House how he his room can you describe this room um it was it was one
34:09
of the the nicer guest quarters that they have in the White House and it was
34:14
actually a suite it wasn't just a bedroom there was an outside room to it
34:20
um that had a a sofa in it and and um some some comfortable Furniture but also
34:27
in that room when by the time I entered were three other girls one of which was
34:33
a very dear friend of mine who remains a dear friend of mine today she's a mind
34:38
controlled slave of US senator arand Spectre she's not free at this time she
34:45
is amnesic of most of the events and she's anxiously awaiting the day that
34:52
someone will be able to rescue her from her ongoing mind control exam what is
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her name where is she located now um for her safety I will not say her name um or
35:03
her location but I will say that she has
35:09
flashes of memory at times and um when I was talking with her recently she said
35:17
that um you met with her in person person yes yes I've seen her since she knows that the book Transformation of
35:24
America has been written and she finds tremendous for her and her children and for other
35:30
mind control victims that someone is actually vocalizing the atrocities that
35:35
are going on in this country to come back to the topic of Maroni so you was brought uh to the to the entrance of the
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White House especially which entrance he was using for service entrance and to
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exemplify how the mind control slaves subconscious is so literal the um my my
35:58
escort Secret Service escort stopped outside the door and pointed out the
36:04
sign that said service entrance on it to me and enunciated it quite differently
36:10
so that I understood it to read serve Us in trance and the service entrance was very
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often how he was brought into the White House he took me inside and up to the
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room that was being used for a cocktail party well actually it's a series of rooms it's all interconnected where you
36:30
you walk from one right on into it was during the r Administration right yes president was president at the time and
36:38
um Mrs Reagan was not there or she was there not that I saw she wasn't I never had any association with her um and
36:45
didn't see her around at all but so who brought you there I mean just sticket service but uh who was your
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mind control operator at the time at the time my Handler was Alex Houston Alex
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Houston was the one who was part of the country music industry which was the
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cover for our travels that brought me um wherever I was ordered to go US senator
37:12
Robert cird was my owner and as my owner Senator bird directed my activities he's
37:20
the one who told Alex Houston to have me in specific places at designated times
37:25
and on this occasion it was Senator Senor bird who ordered that Alex Houston bring me to the White House um and
37:34
also because I had other business in Washington that I would have to be um
37:39
tending and and mind control programmed for at that particular time so Alex
37:45
Houston had brought me to Washington and left me off with the Secret Service who escorted me into the White House and to
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the rooms the series of rooms where this particular cocktail party for Brian Maron so there was you spent all night
38:00
in in bed with him and having intercourse with him or not all night just until um he was sexually gratified
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and then um I left from there and was with um Senator bird as was so often the
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case what do you mean by you was with him after you slept with him as well yes very often there were a series of men
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that I would have to sleep with in one have sex with in one particular particular night but as a sex slave
38:30
there was no personal interaction there was no conversation there was no
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um um no keeping me around for any purposes I was simply there for sexual
38:43
gratification purposes and that was the case on this night as I was going
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through this cocktail party George Bush and meline Albright were also
38:55
present and George Bush signaled me to come over um to he and meline Albright
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and um and talk and it was there that meline Albright ordered that I would be
39:08
brought to her OAS office the next day so she said that you you you mentioned
39:14
your book I remember the page 167 even by heart uh that uh that George Bush
39:20
told you about Margaret Albright who is she and something like that I just I I well yes he made some jokes to the
39:27
effect that she was the quote Reverend mother of all sisters which cryptically meant that she ordered mind control
39:35
slaves such as myself around um and it those that particular cryptic language
39:43
was indigenous to the Catholic Vatican um the the Jesuit mind control um aspect
39:52
of my victimization so the order of the Rose and
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the Catholic um influence that I was experienced at that particular time put
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me into the Catholic Jesuit mode of operation that I had been previously
40:09
programmed for and conditioned for and was often used for carrying out particular Caribbean operations and now
40:16
you your second uh meeting with her was in that building that you was mentioning before can you described the the
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building in her office and how it looks like and how this event had happened well the uh um OAS building is located
40:29
in Washington DC and it um Alex Houston dropped me off out front I went through
40:36
the front door and there's like a a hallway that goes all the way through the OAS building and right out to the
40:42
back where there's a a rock garden her office how the garden look like there's
40:47
some elements you can described the rock garden had um a little walkway like a
40:54
sidewalk where people who work there people who were brought in could go outside there were um different rocks
41:02
było tam kilka drzew i krzewów, a wokół stolarki było mnóstwo karaibskiej sztuki
41:09
Zauważyłem, że jest tam kilka dzieł sztuki haitańskiej, które rozpoznaję, ponieważ
41:15
Byłem na Haiti na operacjach tak wiele razy, że prawdopodobnie byłeś pierwszy
41:20
przeszedłeś przez strażnika i on powiedział ci dokąd idziesz, a najpierw ktoś cię zapytał dokąd idziesz, czy nie
41:27
Po prostu poszedłem prosto. Już wiedziałem, dokąd mam iść i jestem pewien, że różne wskaźniki, które...
41:35
Miałem na sobie coś, co było dla wielu wskazówką, że w każdym razie brałem udział w operacjach CIA
41:42
Ja również musiałam nosić różne róże, a konkretnie te we włosach, ale miałam
41:48
dostałem mały czerwony różany krzyż, kiedy po raz pierwszy zostałem przyjęty do zakonu
41:54
Rose, uh, czy możesz Ju, po prostu zachowaj to, uh, o czym mówiłeś wczoraj i po prostu chcę być ciekawa, czy możesz powiedzieć
42:00
nas przed kamerą, że poszedłeś do jej pokoju, a ona siedziała tam i powiedziała, że ​​tak, po tym jak rozmawialiśmy na zewnątrz
42:07
i otrzymałem moje zamówienie, odprowadziła mnie z powrotem do swojego biura, które znajduje się niedaleko ogrodu skalnego, um i
42:14
jest po lewej stronie, gdy wchodzisz, eee, biuro było naprawdę dość małe, ale to
42:21
na ścianach wisiało trochę sztuki karaibskiej, a także kilka rzeźb haitańskich
42:28
w pokoju znajdowała się szafka na dokumenty, ogólnie rzecz biorąc, była to stosunkowo
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małe biuro, ponieważ nie było to jej główne biuro, ale to biuro OAS było
42:41
bezpośrednio powiązany z Organizacją Narodów Zjednoczonych i
42:47
eee, za każdym razem, gdy byłem w pobliżu Meline Albright, aspekt katolickiego Jezusa był
42:53
uzyskała dostęp i wykorzystała, a ona uzyskała dostęp do mojego programu seksualnego w tym czasie i sprawiła, że
43:01
wykonać z nią seks oralny, zanim wyjdzie, więc jak długo to właściwie trwało?
43:07
ona, ona, to co ona zrobiła, to po prostu zdjęła ubranie i kazała ci zamówić seks oralny
43:15
jej, no cóż, właściwie ona po prostu zdjęła majtki, miała na sobie aa
43:20
sukienka w tamtym czasie aaa dłuższa spódnica, która hmmm, hmmm, była bardziej odpowiednia na lato
43:28
Tak czy inaczej, była to letnia pogoda i, eee, ona po prostu usunęła swoją, eee, swoją
43:37
nylonowe majtki i kazała mi wykonać na niej seks oralny, podczas gdy ona siedziała w swoim
43:43
jej krzesło biurowe i czy ona była podekscytowana tym, że ma orgazm, możesz pomyśleć
43:50
jak długo tam przebywałeś w jej biurze, eee, tak długo, jak to zajęło, naprawdę
43:56
nie wiem, jak długo to trwało, eee… to za długo na coś tak obrzydliwego, ale eee… to trwało do momentu, aż ona… eee…
44:05
seksualnie zaspokojona, a potem po prostu kazano mi wyjść, więc jaki rodzaj rozkazu ci wydała w tej konkretnej sprawie?
44:11
moment, kiedy się z tobą spotkała, cóż, ona po prostu, hm, uzyskała dostęp do seksu, seksu
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część programu, ta sama część, której używałaby Hillary Clinton i to było
44:24
zrobione przez SST, szczególnie odniesienia do siostry bliźniaczki
44:31
odniesienie, gdzie programowanie seksualne zostało już wpojone
44:38
i zdjęcie jej majtek, rozłożenie nóg i wydanie mi poleceń, eee
44:44
to było, to było, to było naprawdę wszystko, co było potrzebne, innymi słowy, byłeś całkowicie
44:50
Tomatic, więc byłeś, uh, po prostu, uh, ze względu na kontrolę twojego umysłu i twoje zachowanie robota w czasie, gdy byłeś robotem
44:57
i nie miałem żadnej zdolności, by zrobić cokolwiek innego niż to, co mi nakazano lub co robiłem wcześniej
45:04
wyszkolony do tego i ona doskonale zdawała sobie sprawę, że zostałem zaprogramowany i wyszkolony. Ona zdawała sobie sprawę, że ja
45:10
był używany w pornografii z Larrym Flintem, eee, magazynem Hustler Larry'ego Flinta
45:18
OK, masz jakiś magazyn, w którym możesz zobaczyć zdjęcia kilku osób w tym magazynie, są dostępne
45:23
Są dostępne w magazynach Flint, Enterprise i Hustler. OK, o co chciałbym cię zapytać?
45:30
pytanie, czy zaczynaliśmy ten program, eee, ten konkretny segment dotyczył twojej wiedzy na temat innych
45:36
członkowie kolejności rzędu, że możesz, czy złożyłeś jakieś zeznania, uh
45:42
do jakiejkolwiek organizacji takiej jak FBI lub cokolwiek związanego z tą sprawą Rose, nie, nie
45:48
organizacja taka jak ta, no cóż, tak naprawdę istnieją pewne frakcje przestępcze
45:55
frakcje rządu, które są w to zaangażowane, są pewne frakcje CIA i pewne frakcje
46:01
FBI znacznie mniej niż FBI, to było bardzo wysoko w rządzie, to jest
46:06
urzędnicy rządowi, tacy jak prezydent Meksyku Miguel DEA Madrid, który był
46:12
prezydent podczas wściekłej administracji um Selenas, która była wiceprezesem
46:18
prezydent później został prezydentem Meksyku, spotkałeś tę osobę osobiście
46:23
tak, ty też uprawiałeś seks z de Madrid de Madrid, a nie z SEL
46:29
kilka razy z d Madryt tak gdzie w Meksyku lub w Meksyku w Meksyku i
46:36
...eee, inni zaangażowani ludzie to na przykład Bill Clinton w 1984 roku, miałem okazję...
46:43
być w ośrodku CIA dla osób z pogranicza śmierci w Lampi w stanie Missouri i Bill
46:49
Dla niektórych osób w tym kraju wydaje się dziwne, że Clinton i George Bush byli tam razem,
46:56
Demokraci byliby razem, ale w rzeczywistości ich cele byłyby dokładnie takie same
47:02
ich programy nie miały nic wspólnego z Partią Demokratyczno-Republikańską, nie miały nic wspólnego z... najlepszym
47:09
interesy Stanów Zjednoczonych ich interesy były takie, że ten nowy świat
47:16
order they both had exactly the same goal and the same agenda at that at that
47:21
time they were conversing to that effect and Bush said that when the American
47:27
people became disillusioned with the Republican party that Bill Clinton as a Democrat would be brought into the
47:34
presidency to finish carrying out this New World Order Plan other other subject
47:39
is when you was discussing I I I was I'm recalling now the tape that I you send me to Europe what I was showing to
47:46
people that uh uh editors and some people from the various magazines they
47:52
find big interest but in the same time very big skepticism because they don't have particular details in that topics
47:59
you was talking about this hunting field when Bush and Reagan uh Bush and and uh
48:04
Clinton were present can you tell me more particular where was happened which plant you're talking about and what you
48:10
detailed how you can detail that well this was um this most dangerous game as
48:16
they referred to it was a matter of human hunting and when a mind control
48:22
slave such as myself was stripped of clothes and turned loose in the woods I
48:27
was then hunted by um George Bush Dick Cheney and Bill Clinton um among others
48:37
but they were the the main ones I do not believe that it was necessary for them
48:42
to have subjected me to this form of trauma there were so many other traumas going on at the time my mind was already
48:49
Prime conditioned for mind control program so I really don't understand it
48:55
except for the fact that they found great pleasure in this form of human hunting and um they took
49:04
it from particular military Maneuvers which which base we talking about when you you was recalling the situation when
49:11
when Clinton was presentent and uh Mr Bush which airspace there's a a little
49:18
place um called lampi Missouri that's just across the Arkansas line Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas at that
49:25
time and he was his whole cocaine operation that was um Mina Arkansas was
49:32
the main hub for was bringing cocaine into this CIA compound and this
49:39
particular Swiss Villa as they called it Amphitheater um in ly Missouri was
49:46
actually a CIA compound out in the woods military fencing all around it and uh
49:52
mind control training uh Center where there was Hightech equipment was in one
49:58
building there were offices in another there were little um Swiss style Villas
50:06
or cabins um where different officials
50:12
in either the military CIA or politics would stay and it would it would house
50:18
them um while they were there for either the cocaine activities for the
50:25
paramilitary operations that were going on you there black helicopters everywhere um total robotic uh guys that
50:33
were being used in Special Forces uh which uh special force you're referring to there was also another program on my
50:39
control uh by Delta Force right can you describe what is your know do you have any knowledge of that or you met these
50:47
people and can you describe me some more of this the Delta Force and the Navy Seals
50:53
are an elite um s an elite part of the military that is mind controlled like
51:00
the mercenaries I'm more familiar with the mercenaries that were being trained
51:06
to carry out International operations that weren't um necessarily sanctioned
51:12
by Congress and they were brought into other countries uh such as South America
51:18
and to carry out their their orders when in a country like that the airplanes
51:24
would then come back with the drugs in them and it was the drugs were then sold on
51:30
the uh streets here in America um and and really worldwide the CIA so-called
51:37
War on Drugs was nothing more than the CIA eliminating their competition and taking over the drug industry so it was
51:43
all inter attached it all um interworked at this particular compound in lampu
51:51
Missouri the uh paramilitary operations there were for um more of a the UN
51:59
aspect they didn't wear un uniforms they wore black uniforms they had black helicopters and this was for um
52:07
implementing the new world order and didn't really have anything to do with our actual military defense so there
52:14
were some specific units which was probably out of uh control maybe M of uh
52:20
but it was very well known to the president of the United States because he was taking part of that oh very well known yes and
52:27
um maybe not so well known even to some higher officials in the military because
52:32
this was not an a a routine military um it was a routine military
52:38
base it was not routine military Maneuvers it was not um known to the
52:44
American public Instead This was secret operations and um like I said for the
52:50
purposes of of bringing in the New World Order and also I believe uh inquire lot
52:56
of money that was paid on the street of various cities yeah which was used for various operations yes it's enormous
53:03
amount of money that were brought in through the drug industry if we had this um this illegally gained money actually
53:11
being used for our country we wouldn't have a national debt here there wouldn't be any problem at all but instead all this money was being used for um um the
53:20
the global effort so the the money was being funneled into that much of it I'm
53:26
a where was being funneled through um CA the Catholic
53:32
um um like the the Catholic convents um Jesuit schools and all the
53:39
the money A lot of times was being funneled right through there through the Catholic church for laundering purposes
53:45
and then actually put into the um the New World Order effort another one of
53:51
these compounds was on Mount Shasta in California you were there too yes I was
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how many times you were there one time I was taken there which year are we talking about which year can you recall the year December
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1986 and that was when George Bush and Dick Cheney were um at that particular
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compound um and and indulged in their um
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their perverse pleasure of U most dangerous game did you slap with uh
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George Bush yourself no never um even though he was present when
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um he had turned me loose in the woods he also had turned my daughter Kelly
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loose she was only six years old at the time and later on that evening when
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Kelly was brought in California you talking about California when Kelly was brought in she said um that she had been
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caught same as me um to quot her in um in that so-called most dangerous game
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that was to make her feel um responsible for the sexual abuse that followed and it was to make me feel
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responsible for it because had we not been caught then we wouldn't have had to have endured the sexual abuse that
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followed George Bush sexually assaulted my daughter and Dick Cheney sexually assaulted
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me uh so so now can you recall uh who brought you to this uh Californian uh
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based and uh uh can you more give more details on that topic where you was BR
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how this compound looks like and everything else which will help help us more to understand and comprehend the
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situation which was probably very shocking when I was presenting to the various media organizations in Europe
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well um Alex Houston was making uh a trip across the country to California at
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that at that particular time in California in December of that year
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during the Christmas break as when uh Ronald Reagan came in um JLA Madrid came
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in from Mexico and it was all part of the ground workor for what's known as
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NAFTA the um uh North American Free Trade
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Agreement which this particular groundwork was actually the opening of
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the Warez Texas um Mexican border to the Free Flow Free Trade of uh cocaine and
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heroin into this country so but I believe also in the economy and other economy not exactly yes so that was
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really the primary purpose for for making this trip across country to California and and rout we stopped in um
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the lake who was with you Alex Houston Kelly and I were traveling by motor home
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across country and we stopped at Merl Haggard's do you have a cocain on on
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your on your home yes and you saw Houston delivering cocaine to various
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people um oh yeah um more often I was the one who actually had to make the
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cocaine um deals or loaded out because I was I was the slave why should he have
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to carry it as the way he thought so I I was usually the one that um carried those lives amounts of cocaine to the
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different um uh warehouses facilities and and and all where the cocaine was
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dropped off you can you recall to whom you delivered the cocaine at the time just for curiosity reason
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oh um many many times the cocaine was
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brought to a CIA drug drop as it was referred in the
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state of Kentucky um it was Diamond tavern's uh Resort where the cocaine was brought in
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another place was um at an abandoned amusement park in Ohio
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where the cocaine was dropped off there was usually large quantities of cocaine
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involved in those kind of deals aside from that it was just minor you know hand distribution to different people in
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the country music industry or different politicians did have been paying you on a spot this money kind of money or you
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never saw money or how it was how was done on the larger deals there was not
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money um exchanged a lot of times there were um Bank transactions that had
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occurred that I had been programmed to Del the specific sign um on the larger
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deals on the smaller deals there was some money that was um made at that at
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that time now uh Mike uh we have now some I
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was now uh one the reasons I came here was very much to dug out some more
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evidence on on various uh aspects of the story which was very very shocking for
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most Europeans said maybe Americans living here and being uh faced with the
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situation daily basis in one way or another even that we can say that most Americans are not familiar with uh with
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this uh vaccines happening on daily basis in this country uh you you've been
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showing me the book can you tell me the contents of the book uh Mark and what is the book all about well and and and uh
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yeah speca first of all I'll tell you where the book came from Alex Houston was um Kathy O'Brien's
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Handler for the CIA he's a CIA operative drug Runner
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pedophile uh money laer as well as slave Runner and uh he orchest even though he
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did not orchestrate Kathy O'Brien's activities for the most part he did he was responsible for making sure that she
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was in certain places a c certain times um as you all have discussed earlier I'm
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sure there are codes keys and triggers um that are necessary for someone to
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know in order to to access very much like getting into a computer program in
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order to access the mind of one of these programmed individuals such as Kathy was
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uh you need to know the the codes keys and triggers um I was aware of this
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because of a general uh in the military that had informed me that somewhere Alex
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Houston must have a record book where it'll say record book on it and it would
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indeed contain some of her codes keys and triggers well I knew that Alex had a
1:00:41
large safe uh in his home very very old but extremely large uh Professional Bank
1:00:49
type safe and that um uh I Knew Too that Kathy O'Brien had a um photographic
1:00:56
memory so that she if she had ever seen the combination even once it would be
1:01:01
recorded in her mind but unfortunately I was
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um rather Disturbed that that she could not tell left from right and usually you
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know you so many turns left and so many turns right well that did pose to be a
1:01:17
little bit of a problem so I just simply reverse the process but I was able to access in Kathy's memory the the actual
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U combination to the safe and when we opened up the safe this
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book a central record book did did indeed uh come out of that safe what
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means tal uh this is book by some Central oh I think um I think you can buy these books uh they're record books
1:01:47
I think you can buy them most anywhere um but um like many CIA operatives they
1:01:53
normally stay with the same theme and so they everything on it will either say uh Central or C CIA or CCA or something of
1:02:03
that nature but um contained within the pages of this book was much more than
1:02:08
codes keys and triggers matter of fact there were very few codes keys and triggers in here um what was important
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though were there were offshore bank account numbers uh numbers of persons uh
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high up in politics like Bill Clinton um and at the time that I got this book Bill Clinton was only running for the
1:02:27
office of President um I didn't realize that he had been destined to be placed in that office but um there a lot of
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drug dealing um a lot of uh South African telephone numbers and uh Bank
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drops uh ways to launder money uh primarily are in this book just mention
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uh Bill Clinton can you please show me the the the page where KY were she can
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find it very quickly uh where Bill Clinton name there and his telephone number was there which I believe some
1:03:00
people they've been using uh they could be yes this
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one let me face this with the
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camera Bill Clinton if I could recall the number 859
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to the lens on my camera 6641 was that that's cor was it number in uh his uh
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country home yes in Little Rock Arkansas mhm so what is it down on the top let me
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give you again because I just want to show my viewers there was uh there was some uh
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says prospective dealers and actually what that meant in code is the fact that Bill Clinton was not a dealer but a
1:03:47
consumer MH um of cocaine so KY you can recall and I believe you testified on
1:03:54
some occasions on Bill Clinton's uh uh using coca you testify that you brought
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in the cocaine and can you describe me this a time and time frame and what was happened 1978 was the first time that
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I've delivered cocaine into the state of Arkansas at minina airport which K was there at the time which K you was there
1:04:16
um my first mind control Handler which was Wayne cooch the man who is Who as a
1:04:22
child with you was chosen to be your father of your child is that correct yes yes and he was also involved in the
1:04:30
mercenary operations that were um under the direction of Louisiana Senator Jay
1:04:35
Bennett Johnston and these mercenaries as I was saying would go to South America or wherever the officers of the
1:04:41
army and and bring back the and the the planes would bring back the drugs this
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uh one particular airplane load of drugs was transferred into a van driven into
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the state of Arkansas and delivered to the Mina
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airport um area I only knew it as a remote um airport in wasita forest in
1:05:07
the state of Arkansas and I've since it's since been identified exactly as
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minina airport but the um I delivered
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some cocaine directly to Bill Clinton what quantity you were talking about what quantity of care cocaine we talking
1:05:24
about just a small personal amount at that time like one kilo or something uh wasn't that much I don't believe it was
1:05:32
that much so where was the place of delivery um it was at a hotel that was right nearby there where Bill Clinton
1:05:39
was staying at that time do you remember the name of the hotel by any chance no I don't was a small it wasn't like a
1:05:45
conventional motel with like a a holiday inside or something it wasn't like that it was um um a old an older Stone Motel
1:05:54
it's um it's actually the place that she's identified she did so for some investigators with the Kenneth star
1:06:01
investigative committee for Congress and um although I apologize I don't have
1:06:08
photographic memory recall they did tell me what the name of the place was it is um uh was at one time a uh it was built
1:06:15
during the 20s um and it was uh used for hunting as
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a hunting Hunting Fishing Lodge Motel type of thing but uh has long since been
1:06:27
used as a retreat for various Christian groups and this sort of thing but U yes
1:06:32
it's in existence and it's there in the watcht for we'll be able to recall this hotel when you be able to see this hotel
1:06:39
now right I can get photographs of it uh now now to come back to this topic you
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you brought there uh you came in his room right he was there yes Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas at that time he
1:06:51
was for a very brief period of time then um um later he became governor for an
1:06:57
extended period how the situation was looking like you brought him this cocain to his room right or yes along with a message from Jay
1:07:05
Bennett Johnston because this was from Johnston's personal stash of cocaine that he was sharing with Clinton um
1:07:12
because it was supposedly um extra good cocaine uh Bill Clinton snorted two
1:07:18
lines of it then and did he did in front of you he opened the package yes and told me to tell his his um his friend
1:07:26
Ben as he referred to him that the cocaine was excellent so it was real
1:07:32
good so um I did that was the first time I witnessed him using cocaine and I did have occasion to see him using it
1:07:38
throughout the regish administration so there was your first occasion that you met in person with
1:07:43
Bill Clinton correct yeah yeah did you testify on that to some committee or any organization like FBI or
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whatever the information was um turned over to the ones that Mark just mentioned
1:07:56
to to the what was the organization I'm sorry the star committee it's Kenneth star he was a he's been appointed by
1:08:03
Congress to investigate the Whitewater um and as well as Mina
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Arkansas Affair his um his group is rather large
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they've uh come down with several indictments they've already forced Hillary Clinton to have to testify it's
1:08:20
official group of the Congress it's official organization and you testify together or or you or no Our Testimony
1:08:27
thus far has not been made public this is the first even mention of it publicly
1:08:33
uh the other the other reports that we did we've turned this information over to all aspects of law enforcement what
1:08:41
testimony was taking place exactly what time and you have a frame time what has happened which year we we've C we we've
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uh the first testimony uh was this along with some other physical evidences that
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Alex Houston was in the C can business and that was given um uh by myself to
1:09:00
the FBI in Anchorage Alaska in 1989 1989 1989 who was the person in
1:09:07
charge that that took this evidence from kin marish K Marisha was FBI special
1:09:12
agent yes he was in charge at that time of that particular office um I also
1:09:18
reported this information to United States Customs Enforcement in Anchorage
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Alaska um but since no crimes had been committed in the Alaskan
1:09:29
jurisdiction they were not permitted to investigate it only to forward the information on to Washington and to the
1:09:36
respective areas that I was reporting uh where crimes had been
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committed Kathy then gave testimony to the local Anchorage Police Department
1:09:48
for the FBI on camera in uh 1989 with
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regards to Alex Houston's abuse of her daughter herself and in addition to that
1:09:59
some information regarding the drug dealing but at that time KY had not recovered her memories yet um Beyond a
1:10:08
certain point it in 1990 uh we also gave testimony to uh the
1:10:17
United States Department of Defense special investigations uh known as the uh
1:10:23
defense intelligence agency a representative from the Huntsville Alabama regional office came to my
1:10:31
mother's home uh just outside of Nashville Tennessee and uh there Kathy gave more
1:10:38
recorded testim what was his name you remember you
1:10:43
know we we it's it's in the book oh I see but I don't recall it off hand we've
1:10:49
reported these these uh all these crimes with so many people and on every turn we
1:10:55
were stopped for reasons of National Security it's also interesting to note at that time when we were reporting
1:11:01
these crimes that the US attorney general um of of the justice department
1:11:07
here was Dick thornberg Dick thornberg was a primary victimizer of Mine He's
1:11:14
heavily involved in the white slavery cocaine operations he was at that time governor
1:11:22
of the state of Pennsylvania and and uh during the bulk of my victimization but by the time that
1:11:29
I was reporting the crimes of my victimization he was the US attorney general which meant that he shut down
1:11:37
the um any investigations for reasons of national security from all aspects of um
1:11:45
of um the especially on the federal end from Customs uh FBI the defense
1:11:52
intelligence agency the us armies uh C
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śledztwa, eee, tak naprawdę wszystkie aspekty egzekwowania prawa, o których informowaliśmy, poszliśmy do każdego, eee, chuja
1:12:06
Thorberg był w odpowiednim miejscu, nazwisko Dicka Thorberga również znajduje się w tym dzienniku, czy mogę je dodać dla mojej publiczności?
1:12:13
że tak, to było za kilogram kokainy, którą Alex zebrał
1:12:19
on, uh, dostarczył mu kokainę, albo Kathy to zrobiła i uh, uh Tomberg
1:12:26
18 000 dolarów tak, więc dostarczyłeś ten konkretny
1:12:32
kokainę dla niego osobiście, albo o tak, było ich wiele, wiele, wiele, wiele, pamiętam
1:12:38
Pamiętasz, jak widziałaś go osobiście? Och, wiele razy była z nim wykorzystywana seksualnie. Och, ty też uprawiałaś z nim seks.
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związek tak, on był, więc miałeś z nim związek
1:12:50
jego, uh, kolejny, kolejny, inny aspekt, och, przepraszam, ten dzieciak tam
1:12:56
jest zdenerwowany na psa KY masz listę ludzi, których uh co uh jak ty
1:13:02
Można nazwać tę listę listą Nowego Porządku Świata i listą handlarzy kokainą dla CIA lub handlarzy narkotyków, czy możesz?
1:13:10
Powiedz nam o podsprawcach, o których myślę, że ma na myśli, tak, mam na myśli
1:13:15
sprawcy, tak, to długa lista, ale to wciąż tylko
1:13:20
częściowa lista i są na niej nazwiska takie jak były dyrektor CIA Bill
1:13:29
Casey, on też brał udział w tej operacji kokainowej i w niewolnictwie białych i
1:13:35
był jedną z najbardziej zawiłych części
1:13:41
Order Róży, połączenie CIA i Kościoła Katolickiego
1:13:47
Watykan, o którym wiem, że ma powiązania z aspektem jezuickim w tej sprawie.
1:13:55
rozległe, to moje rozumienie od dzieciństwa aż do czasów Billa Caseya, że ​​Kościół katolicki chciał
1:14:03
być jedynym Kościołem Światowym, który był ich ostatecznym celem, a kiedy Ronald Reagan
1:14:10
wyrzucić inne wierzenia i po prostu sprawić, by każdy Kościół był katolicki, innymi słowy kościół prawosławny lub co to jest
1:14:17
twoja wiedza na temat tego, z jakim szacunkiem doszedłeś do tego wniosku, dobrze
1:14:22
Doszedłem do tego wniosku już w dzieciństwie
1:14:28
kiedy, hm, były gubernator Michigan George
1:14:34
Romney i ówczesny premier Kanady Pierre Trudeau rozmawiali o Pierre'ie
1:14:39
Trudeau był katolickim jezuitą i, hm, rozmawiali o połączeniu
1:14:47
informacje z tamtego okresu, z informacji, że katolicki Watykan
1:14:52
miał wpływ na skutki traumy w umyśle człowieka, która rzekomo była przechowywana
1:14:57
w Watykanie katolickim, to było pierwsze wprowadzenie do tego projektu ustawy, Casey
1:15:02
było aż do administracji Reagana, tak często słyszałem o tym połączeniu i o tym, jak Kościół katolicki
1:15:08
byłby tym Światowym Kościołem, o którym Ronald Reagan powiedział Brianowi
1:15:14
Malon, eee, na tym przyjęciu koktajlowym w Białym Domu, na którym byliśmy
1:15:19
omawiając wcześniej, że wierzył, iż jedyną drogą do pokoju na świecie jest kontrola umysłu mas, kiedy
1:15:26
stwierdził, że to była również gra słów, gra słów „masy”, którą oni
1:15:32
wierzył, że ludźmi można manipulować za pośrednictwem kościoła, ponieważ jeśli przywódcy kościoła przekazują
1:15:40
to są rozkazy w ramach tego nowego porządku świata, a ludzie by...
1:15:47
interpretować to jako informację od Boga i rzekomo robić dokładnie to, co robili
1:15:53
kazano mi to zrobić, to była moja manipulacja w tym względzie, ale moja kontrola nad masami
1:16:00
odnosiło się to również do ogółu społeczeństwa, więc mniej więcej było to
1:16:07
gra słów Brian Mal Roone był częścią jezuickiego aspektu rzeczy, więc
1:16:14
dla niego było to całkiem zabawne, jak wiele razy wykorzystywał cię seksualnie, ile razy ty byłaś
1:16:21
tak naprawdę mu zaproponowałem, że ja do Maroon Tom Mar Ro na dwóch
1:16:28
okazje, um, on nie był jednym z moich głównych oprawców, um, o których okazjach rozmawiamy, o których
1:16:36
Czy możesz sobie przypomnieć te okazje w danym roku lub tę, o której rozmawialiśmy?
1:16:42
wcześniej w Białym Domu, a innym razem po stronie kanadyjskiej przy wodospadzie Niagara
1:16:49
i kto cię tam przyprowadził za drugim razem, Alex Houston, Alex Houston, wciąż podróżujący pod przykrywką
1:16:56
branży muzyki country, która była naszą przykrywką, która była naszą wymówką
1:17:03
podróżując po Stanach Zjednoczonych, Meksyku, Karaibach i Kanadzie
1:17:09
a teraz wracając do tej listy, zebrałeś nazwiska i osoby, które spotkałeś w czasie ukrywania się
1:17:15
z narkotykami, biznesem narkotykowym lub handlem narkotykami, czy możesz mi powiedzieć?
1:17:22
resztę tego imienia, które masz na tej liście, możesz mi po prostu przeczytać, proszę, inne imiona obejmują Saudyjczyków
1:17:28
Arabski król F odnośnie do odnośnie do nowego zamówienia członków w prawo um tak
1:17:36
tak, to są te, które zrobiłeś, mogę ci dać, eee, Order Róży, Nowy Porządek Świata
1:17:44
imiona, które zaznaczyłem na tej konkretnej liście, a ona jest pełna konkretnych
1:17:53
baronowie narkotykowi, którzy nie są członkami Zakonu Róży, ale są tego świadomi, jak np. Jose
1:17:59
buo San Juan zaczynamy od Zakonu Róży i twojego ludu, który był
1:18:05
tam i twoja klasyfikacja na tym
1:18:12
um, um, amerykański dyplomata Philip H, armia amerykańska
1:18:17
Podpułkownik Michael Aquino, który był głównym programistą
1:18:23
mój amerykański kongresmen, facet Vanderjack, Tommy Lort z Los Angeles
1:18:31
Dodgers, on jest, on ma...
1:18:37
drużyna baseballowa tutaj, Dodgers, którzy używają kontroli umysłu i to plus
1:18:42
miał powiązania z katolikami i był bardzo związany z Zakonem Róży, byłym amerykańskim agentem narkotykowym Zar i sekretarzem
1:18:52
Edukacja w czasach administracji Reagana, ustawa Bennett, Bill Bennett
1:18:57
jest bardzo związany z Zakonem Róży, jest osobą kontrolującą umysł
1:19:03
programista i jego brat Bob Bennett
1:19:09
to jest tak zwany prawnik, który jest również częścią tego globalnego
1:19:18
wysiłek ambasadora Arabii Saudyjskiej księcia Bandera Bena Sultana, który, jak rozumiem, ma
1:19:25
odkąd zostałem królem Arabii Saudyjskiej
1:19:32
Arabia i były gubernator Tennessee Lamar
1:19:39
Alexander George Bush Jr Michael Dante, który był szefem
1:19:49
pornograf dla Ronalda Reagana w istocie sprowadzało się to do tego, że zrobił
1:19:54
dużo tajnego filmowania, aby skompromitować ludzi zamożnych politycznie, hmmm, przez ich
1:20:01
perwersje wynikające z posiadania przy sobie filmów
1:20:09
Hank Cochran jest piosenkarzem i autorem tekstów w branży muzyki country
1:20:16
Nashville, Tennessee, który był jedną z głównych osób w CIA zajmujących się kokainą
1:20:23
operacja on też jest świadomy zakonu róży tej grupy zakonu róży
1:20:29
była to mała grupa, była to elitarna grupa na samym szczycie i to była głównie
1:20:34
światowi przywódcy, um, poza tym było kilka osób, które o tym wiedziały, ale
1:20:41
nie byliśmy, hm, właściwie częścią tego wszystkiego i nie byliśmy wtajemniczeni we wszystko, co się tam działo
1:20:48
jak nasz były sekretarz obrony Dick Cheney, który nie był członkiem Dick
1:20:54
Cheney nie był członkiem Gold of Dr i nie wiedziałem, że mógłby nim być, ale nie jest to moje doświadczenie
1:21:00
być świadkiem jego rzeczywistego udziału
1:21:06
to jest kongresmen USA, Gary
1:21:15
acrian z Nowego Jorku, kongresmen Jim Traffic
1:21:22
Ohio, generał Manuel Nora z Panamy
1:21:27
dobrze wiedział o zakonie Róży, nie jestem pewien, czy rzeczywiście nim był
1:21:33
niezależnie od tego, czy brał w tym udział, czy nie, z pewnością brał udział w operacji narkotykowej CIA za czasów administracji Reagana i Busha, którą ja
1:21:40
wiedziałem, czy spotkałeś go osobiście, tak, spotkałem się z nim osobiście, norri um, to była pierwsza okazja, kiedy go spotkałem
1:21:50
on był w grudniu
1:21:56
1987 i gdzie to było? To było w Tampie, w okolicy Tampy
1:22:04
Floryda, która znajdowała się naprawdę blisko bazy lotniczej McDill, była tak naprawdę tuż po drugiej stronie zatoki, od bazy lotniczej McDill
1:22:12
Baza Sił, która jest głównym ośrodkiem operacji kokainowych CIA
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także kto cię do niego przyprowadził i jak możesz opisać to spotkanie z nim i czy możesz opisać gdzie go poznałeś
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w którym był pokój hotelowy lub jakiś inny lub Bas um nie, właściwie miał swój statek na zewnątrz
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w tym rejonie portu ma to
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...ogromny jacht, myślę, że tak naprawdę nazywa się go jachtem, naprawdę nie wiem, gdzie tu jest różnica
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między statkiem a jachtem był bardzo duży, ale była tam ogromna impreza
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to działo się na jego jachcie w tym czasie, kiedy zostałem sprowadzony w tym celu
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przekazania wiadomości od Ronalda Reagana dotyczącej jego jawnego zażywania kokainy
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działania, ponieważ Iran Contra była w pełnym rozkwicie w tym czasie i była bardzo
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skandaliczne w tym kraju i miało dużo, hm, relacji w mediach, hm, rozkazy dla Nory w tym czasie
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czas, żeby po prostu, wiesz, był cichszy w sprawie operacji związanych z pójściem z nimi pod ziemię i zaprzestaniem was
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znasz jego jawne działania, czy możesz sobie dokładnie przypomnieć, jaki rozkaz mu dałeś i jakiego symbolu używasz?
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to lub język przede wszystkim to, co zostało zrobione, to było to, że był tam nasz senator Alan Simpson
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Wyoming był dyrektorem operacji, która nazywała się „Operacja Shell Game” i miała na celu schwytanie Nory
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zaprzestać jego jawnych działań, zostało to zrobione poprzez taktykę terrorystyczną, eee
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gdzie na statek przyprowadzono również podpułkownika Michaela Aquino. Widziałem Olivera Northa na dole, kiedy byłem
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zabrano mnie na górę do Nory, tam byłam, czy możesz tego użyć?
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Czy możesz spróbować sobie przypomnieć ten obraz, kiedy zostałeś zabrany do jego pokoju?
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lub jak to wygląda, tak, dostałem konkretne rozkazy
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być na nabrzeżu, aby zostać odebranym przez małą łódkę, która zabierze mnie na jego jacht
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ta mała, która cię tam przyprowadziła, do tego Bo, nie znam nikogo, um, tego
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wyglądałoby to jak mała łódź motorowa, nie, kto cię przywiózł
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tam i osoba, która cię tam przywiozła na Florydę, um Alex Houston EXA, okej, a potem Alex Houston odleciał um
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gdzie indziej, aby zająć się swoimi sprawami, podczas gdy ja zostałem tam, aby
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wykonać te konkretne rozkazy, więc przekazałeś wiadomość od Reagana
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innymi słowy tak, jaka była wiadomość, czy pamiętasz wiadomość tak, uh
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nie, nie dosłownie, w chwili gdy jest to zapisane w książce, dosłownie
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jest w transformacji Ameryki dosłownie moja um moja pamięć teraz musiałbym
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um um przejdź do samomedytacji
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trans, aby przypomnieć sobie dosłownie, a nie chcę tego robić w tym konkretnym momencie, ale przesłanie w istocie było takie, że
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...eee, rychłe podniesienie zasłony nad wszystkimi z Iran Contra było...
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zamierza ujawnić działalność CIA związaną z kokainą, jeśli Nora nie zaprzestanie swojej działalności
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teraz płaskie działania, eee, powiedziano mu, że
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będzie miał zapewnioną ochronę przed jakimkolwiek narażeniem, chyba że
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kontynuował kurs, którym podążał i wybrał Chyba wybrał, więc dajesz
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mu tę wiadomość osobiście masz prawo zostać obok niego na jego krześle lub jego uh nie ma miejsca co się stało
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zostałem zabrany na jego jacht. Dostałem powlekany klucz, który był...
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muszla, która była, hm, wirowana w kształt oka, to prawdziwa muszla
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można go znaleźć na plażach w tym rejonie. Pokazałem muszlę, jest też muszla, um
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to, co nazywali uchem dziecka, które było bardzo traumatyczne i do którego się przyzwyczaiło
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Zasygnalizuj moje zaangażowanie w tę konkretną operację Shellgate, że
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był moim kluczem wejściowym na statek, kiedy go pokazałem, gdy już byłem...
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strażnicy i on miał strażników na ramionach Nora miał strażników na swoim statku, gdy tylko ich opuściłem, zostałem eskortowany
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na górę do czegoś, co wygląda jak czarne, dymne lustro, okna
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bardzo wysokie piętro, czyli to, co
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Chciałbym spotkać się z Norą. Alan Simpson już tam był, więc był tam prezydentem, kiedy pan tam był, poruczniku.
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Pułkownik Michael Aquino był tam i w zasadzie zrobili zmodyfikowaną wersję
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pokazy kontroli umysłu Hands-On, w których byłem zmuszony uczestniczyć
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w różnych bazach wojskowych i instalacjach NASA w całym kraju, to właśnie tam pojawiło się określenie „model prezydencki”
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pochodzili z Essence i prezentowali najnowsze formy
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Kontrola umysłu, eee, dla ludzi, a to była zmodyfikowana wersja tego
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prezentacja i zrobiono to dla Norgi, aby pokazać mu nie tylko najnowsze
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Technologie kontroli umysłu, ale także granie na jego okultystycznej przesądności, to było
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zrobiono to, żeby go przestraszyć i zmusić do wiary
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że ściągnie na siebie gniew samego szatana, jeśli nie zastosuje się do jego woli
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Reagan rozkazał, żeby był bardzo przerażony całą prezentacją i pobiegł krzycząc
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z pokoju, więc efekt był na pewno ten uraz, który on
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wytrwał w swojej przesądnej wierze połączonej z przesłaniem, które było
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powinny być dostarczone dosłownie, łącznie z dokładnymi zaprogramowanymi modulacjami głosu
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wystarczająco, aby zmusić go do ograniczenia jego operacji na bardziej
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subtelna podstawa, um, jakoś nie wiem dlaczego, jak i co
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wydarzyło się, ale najwyraźniej tego nie zrobił i to było, eee, Busha, kiedy poszedł i napadł na Panamę
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w tak zwanej operacji, bo kiedy, hm, wciągnęli Norę w to
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kraju i myślę, że nadal pozostaje tu więźniem politycznym, ale
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stało się tak, ponieważ czerpał zyski z narkotyków CIA, czyli pieniędzy, które...
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Wiem o tym i skąd wiesz o tym schemacie?
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ze względu na transakcje, w które byłem zaangażowany
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w jego aspekcie tej operacji kokainowej na Karaibach, wiedziałem
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że zabraknie pieniędzy i że już oskarżono go o ściąganie skąpstwa, kto miał zamiar odebrać
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pieniądze od niego, ty byłeś za to odpowiedzialny, albo czasami ja byłem częścią
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tego, eee, tego konkretnego aspektu, więc w ten sposób byłem świadomy, że on był
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już przeglądałem, ale byłem też świadomy, że bardziej niż cokolwiek innego jego
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działania nie były w tamtym czasie utrzymywane w wystarczającej tajemnicy, aby odpowiadać potrzebom CIA
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do tego momentu byli tak bezczelni w kwestii swoich działań związanych z kokainą, ale musieli ich uciszyć w trakcie
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Śledztwo w sprawie Iran-Contras. Rozumiem, w jakim zakresie byłeś
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zbierali pieniądze, więc przywieźli te pieniądze statkami i dostarczyli je tobie, a ty przywiozłeś te pieniądze
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gdzie często było to częścią operacji na Karaibach, chciałbym
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podróż liniami Norwegian Caribbean NCL z uh keus G na Florydzie, co by
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odwiedzić różne porty zawinięcia na Karaibach i w Meksyku i to było...
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kolejny środek transportu dla branży muzyki country Alex Houston jako
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tak zwany artysta-hipnotyzer sceniczny brzuchomówcy w branży muzyki country zostanie sprowadzony na statek
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aby mnie zabawiać, zostałem z nim zatrudniony jako analityk pisma ręcznego, który dał mi
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wykłady na statku wycieczkowym, a potem, gdy byliśmy w niektórych portach zawinięcia
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W tym czasie przeprowadzono operację narkotykową CIA, która
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Czy możesz mi wyjaśnić z technicznego punktu widzenia, że ​​na początku lat 80. miałem dużą walizkę pełną pieniędzy?
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w miarę rozwoju wydarzeń i w późniejszych latach 80. większość była dostarczana jako Bank
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numery transakcji i kody, które zostały mi zaprogramowane, a nie rzeczywiste fizyczne pieniądze
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przelew, ale na początku pieniądze były faktycznie zabierane w walizce do...
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kluczowe miejsca, na przykład Key West na Florydzie, gdzie
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um um operacje były w pełnym rozkwicie, um niektóre do Meksyku, wiele
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heroina została faktycznie wywieziona z Meksyku w tamtym czasie
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przez NCL NCL to to, co regionalne Karaiby
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To rejs luksusowym statkiem wycieczkowym Jose Buo w San Juan w Puerto Rico
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była bardzo istotną częścią operacji na Karaibach i miała oczyścić
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um CIA zaangażowała ludzi takich jak ja um gdzie
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legalne imigracje lub legalne kontrole celne zostały ominięte
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żeby faktycznie mógł zabrać narkotyki ze statku przez
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uh, zamiast tego, w przestrzeni ładunkowej, aby nie zostali wykryci, było tam miejsce na ukrycie
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wszyscy brali w tym udział, NCL było wówczas całkowicie zaangażowane w operacje narkotykowe
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następnie narkotyki przetransportowano do kampera, którym podróżował Alex Houston
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i pojechałem na statek wycieczkowy, wiesz, kiedy byliśmy na naszym
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rejs, wtedy byśmy zabrali pieniądze, które były, więc poszliśmy z
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ten konkretny pojazd do statku w środku albo po prostu weź to
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uh narkotyki i wszystko w tym utworze, jak to opisujesz, jak miałeś narkotyki w tym uh uh pojeździe silnikowym, prawda?
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w uhuh walizka, w której były pieniądze, została wymieniona na walizki
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narkotyki, eee, lub narkotyki były czasami przenoszone na eee w tych dużych sklepach spożywczych
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pojemniki do przechowywania na statku wycieczkowym, eee, linie rejsowe, ale kiedy wróciliśmy do portu
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w um na Florydzie narkotyki przewieziono następnie do kampera
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kamper został specjalnie zaprojektowany, aby miał puste ściany do przechowywania narkotyków
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następnie zostały umieszczone w ścianie kampera i wjechane z powrotem do...
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Nashville, Tennessee, punkt zrzutu narkotyków w Ohio, który
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Wspomniałem wcześniej o zrzucie narkotyków w jaskini Diamond Cavern w Kentucky, o którym wspominałem
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wcześniej lub ewentualnie do różnych baz wojskowych wzdłuż
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Tak jak teraz widzę, to drugie nazwisko, które wymieniłeś na tej liście, kim oni są?
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wspomniałeś też w jakiś sposób o Sadamie Husseinie, w tym względzie tak
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był, eee, wspomniany był Saddam Hussein
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i to było raczej spowodowane byciem uważanym za kamień milowy Nowego Porządku Świata
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Uważano go za zbędnego, był w to zamieszany przez całą wojnę w Pustynnej Burzy
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to, do czego miałem dostęp, to, o czym wiedziałem, to było po prostu ustawione, jako kwestia
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fakt, że przekazałem wiadomość królowi Arabii Saudyjskiej F, że armia Iraku była
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tylko cytat Miraż w wietrze świata w wirze gdzie
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O którym roku mówisz? Powiedział, że Saddam Hussein zostanie ostatecznie powstrzymany. O którym roku mówisz?
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około um, to było w 1986 roku, myślę, że w 86.86 roku już uzbrajali Irak
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biologia iCal uh broń wojenna i um
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eee, to jest to, o czym wiedziałem, w szczególności, że celem było zaatakowanie Iranu, zakładam, że w tym samym czasie, lub eee
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w tamtym czasie w armii Iraku było tak, że Saddam Hussein
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kontynuuj zgodnie z George'em Bushem, co słyszałem, jak George Bush mówił, kiedy słyszałeś, jak mówił, że eee, Bohemian
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Grove, no cóż, mniej więcej w tym samym czasie, kiedy go tam widziałem, był...
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omówienie, w jaki sposób Saddam Hussein powinien mieć możliwość kontynuowania ludobójstwa w swoim kraju
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kraj, więc byłoby, cytuję, tym mniej dla Busha, żeby musiał
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zniszczyć, gdy wojna faktycznie wybuchła, a w międzyczasie Arabia Saudyjska
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Arabski i królewski posiłek został uspokojony i zrozumiał, że budynek
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z Iraku nie miało to bezpośredniego wpływu na Arabię ​​Saudyjską, rzekomo nie miało
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miało to na nich bezpośredni wpływ lub stanowiło dla nich zagrożenie, ponieważ Saddam Hussein miał zostać rozbrojony, wojna była
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nieuchronne i to było, wiesz, pod koniec lat 80., kiedy wszystko to było już ustalone, więc kiedy Pustynna Burza
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tak naprawdę do tego doszło, to było, hm, to nie wyglądało jak, hm, wojna, jak
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um, jak to w ogóle publiczność odebrała, to było tak wyreżyserowane, tak
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zorganizowano, ale Saddam Hussein był zdecydowanie brany pod uwagę w filmie „Niezniszczalny” jako dziecko doktora du Valera z Haiti
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um też było brane pod uwagę w filmie „Niezniszczalny”, gdzie Haiti było wykorzystywane jako centrum kokainowe
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wiele lat przed tym konkretnym aspektem COC spotkałeś się z Bokiem
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wiele razy, kiedy po raz pierwszy się z nim spotkałem, spotkałem się z nim na Haiti podczas jego prezydentury
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Pałac w PTO Prince i kto cię tam przyprowadził Alex Houston przez
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Norwegian Caribbean Line, och, byłeś z załogą, um, wiele transakcji narkotykowych, um, miałeś
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miało to miejsce przed odłączeniem Baby Doc od zasilania, gdy Baby Doc został odłączony od zasilania
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władzy wiedziałem, że Haiti jest wykorzystywane jako prototyp masowego ludobójstwa
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Nowy Porządek Świata według Nowego Porządku Świata PL i pod jakim względem
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ludobójstwa poprzez wojny domowe lub konflikty między narodami
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ten kraj lub różne grupy, albo jak zrozumiałeś ten aspekt ludobójstwa
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Nowy Porządek Świata, przez AIDS, kontrolę umysłu mas
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co masz na myśli mówiąc o AIDS? Czy masz na myśli, że ktoś tam został wszczepiony, czy też wszystko, co wiem, i to jest
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szczegółowo opisano w książce, że został on celowo przywieziony na Haiti, aby
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jak powiedział George Bush, to jest tylko jego cytat, powiedział, żeby zniszczyć
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u źródła i innymi słowy, hm, wszystko to było w Bohemian Grove, tak, czym było Bohemian
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gr również odnosi się do RPA w tamtym czasie, co oznacza behan Grove uh
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właściwie rolę w całej tej historii. Przeczytałem twoją książkę, ale Beman Grove było miejscem
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Czy wszyscy ci ludzie należący do tego klubu są członkami Rose, w jakiś sposób, czy po prostu
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tylko niektóre z nich to Bohemian Grove, który był politycznym placem zabaw
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Północna Kalifornia i nadal tam jest, niedaleko od klifu, gdzie znajduje się tzw.
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szczyt USA odbył się w Bohemian Grove, a ludzie spotkali się tam dwa razy
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poziomy, które według mojego zrozumienia były zwykle jednym poziomem
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członkostwo na drugim poziomie to elita, politycznie zamożni członkowie
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Grow, w którym uczestniczyli m.in. George Bush, Bill i Bob Bannett, a także Gerald Ford, żeby wymienić tylko kilku
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Ronald Reagan Kissinger, a także rozumiem, że Kissinger jest aa
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członek, ale nie miałem z nim kontaktu, to było moje doświadczenie
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doświadczenie w kontakcie z Dickiem Cheneyem, czy masz jakąś wiedzę na temat tej operacji, gdy był tam Gorbach?
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była też jakaś rozmowa, którą słyszałeś między Bushem a Gorbaczowem i całą tą operacją, którą miał do zrobienia
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Rosja ma odciąć Związek Radziecki lub przekonać Gorbaczowa i to jest jedyne
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jedyny aspekt, o którym w ogóle wiedziałem, jeśli chodzi o Gorbaczowa i to,
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um wysiłek był po prostu wspólnym wspólnym celem wdrożenia
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Nowy Porządek Świata, hm, nie znam szczegółów, nie mam wglądu w ten aspekt, ponieważ moje operacje były ograniczone
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głównie do Kanady, Meksyku i Karaibów, więc nigdy nie masz szansy zobaczyć, kiedy
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Czy był tam gacher czy coś w tym stylu? Nie, w tamtym czasie byłem wolny. Nie byłem już niewolnikiem kontroli umysłu. To nie było
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już nie działa, rozumiem, ale Presidio to, hm, znana baza nadużyć
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Podpułkownik Michael Aquino został oskarżony o wykorzystywanie seksualne dzieci w związku z rozprzestrzenianiem
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Jego okultystyczna świątynia poświęcona była traumom związanym z rytuałem krwi, który tam miał miejsce.
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zabrano je tam w celu programowania kontroli umysłu, jest to kontrola umysłu, hm
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zaawansowana technologia, część budynku, która jest
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znajduje się na precidio i Pridal, jak powiedziałem, jest bardzo blisko
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bliskość Bohemian Grove, więc wszystko to jest w pewien sposób ze sobą powiązane
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Ludzie są zaangażowani w oba miejsca. Czy możesz podać mi więcej szczegółów na temat tych nazwisk, które tam masz?
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jak handlarze narkotyków i handlarze narkotyków TR i niewolnicy, masz tam całkiem sporą listę, eee tak, eee, inne strony, które
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Wierzę, że wagon towarowy Willie jest artystą muzyki country, George'em Bushem
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Jr jest na liście operacji, uh, czy masz wiedzę, spotkałeś się z nim, tak?
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Kim był ten człowiek, jak go opisujesz? George Bush Jr. zabrał Kelly'ego
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kilkakrotnie zdarzyło mi się ją wykorzystać seksualnie, biorąc pod uwagę wszystkie oznaki, które widziałem, gdy Kelly była
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wrócił, musiałbym powiedzieć „tak” za jego wsparcie dla napaści seksualnej na jego ojca
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Kelly, tak, George Bush Jr. krył hmmm
1:43:39
Jego ojciec, jak miał na drugie imię, uh imię George Bush Jr., również George Bush Jr., teraz nazywa się...
1:43:46
jego obecne stanowisko, uh, sądzę, że jest gubernatorem Teksasu, och, rozumiem to w tym momencie, rozumiem, ale kiedy go znałem, on...
1:43:54
to było, hm, to było w 1986 roku, był w kompleksie Mount Shasta, był też w
1:44:02
Ronald Reagan, hm, nie wiem, czy to jego główny dom
1:44:08
albo drugi dom albo cokolwiek, ale to jest dom w, hm, w
1:44:14
Kalifornia, że ​​um um byłem, spotkałeś się z nim tak, czy masz coś, uh, cokolwiek, cokolwiek
1:44:20
nie miał z nim żadnego związku seksualnego ani żadnych innych oznak, że był zainteresowany jakąkolwiek formą seksu
1:44:27
jedyne zainteresowanie, jakie kiedykolwiek widziałem, że okazywał, dotyczyło moich relacji
1:44:32
Córko, eee, nie byłam świadkiem jego seksualnego ataku na moją córkę, chociaż czy widziałaś kogoś, kto...
1:44:40
naocznym świadkiem jakiegokolwiek napaści na twoją córkę, którą widziałeś na własne oczy, widziałeś na własne oczy, tak
1:44:46
kiedy to się stało i jak to się stało, to było po tym, jak Kelly i ja zostaliśmy złapani w najniebezpieczniejszej grze o nazwie
1:44:53
na Górze Shasta i zabraliśmy do domku myśliwskiego, chaty, cokolwiek byś chciał
1:45:01
chcę to nazwać tym, co działo się w Kalifornii, albo tak, w północnej Kalifornii i, hm, Dick Cheney i George
1:45:09
Bush był wtedy na wakacjach, swego rodzaju wakacjach służbowych, ponieważ było blisko
1:45:17
Święta Bożego Narodzenia i oni nie pracowali, George Bush używał ich obficie
1:45:23
ilości to heroina, którą widziałem, że zażywał, zażywał heroinę, tak
1:45:29
w którą stronę przez igłę lub um i um um tam też było
1:45:36
opium, które było palone w tym pokoju, był tam Cheney, tak, tak
1:45:44
i który pokój możesz opisać? Pokój i miejsce, w którym się znajdował? Hmm, to było ustawione
1:45:50
jak ściany z drewna sekwojowego i to było bardzo rustykalne, eee, cały pokój
1:45:58
został skonfigurowany w lustrzanym odbiciu
1:46:05
iluzja, um, gdzie wszystko, jakby była sofa naprzeciwko sofy, byli obydwoje
1:46:13
eee, czarna skóra i wyglądały dokładnie tak samo, a stały naprzeciwko siebie, dwa krzesła, dwa fotele.
1:46:20
ustawione naprzeciwko siebie, tak aby wyglądało, jakby patrzyły do ​​środka
1:46:26
Pokój, cały pokój wydawał się być odbiciem lustrzanym, ale tak naprawdę został po prostu tak zaprojektowany, eee, ponieważ eee
1:46:35
jakby George Bush siedział na jednym krześle, a Dick Cheney na drugim, byli nadzy, kiedy Kelly i
1:46:41
Przyprowadzono mnie, byli nadzy, albo tak, eee, kiedy po raz pierwszy weszliśmy
1:46:48
nie, ale, hm, oboje rozpięli spodnie i, hm, robili loda
1:46:58
uwagi do Kelly i mnie, oboje byli bardzo zadowoleni
1:47:03
na heroinę i narkotyki, które były
1:47:09
że tam byli, to były ich ulubione narkotyki rekreacyjne i
1:47:16
byli bardzo agresywni wobec Kelly i mnie
1:47:22
oboje, więc co dokładnie zrobili? Po prostu uprawiali seks oralny albo po prostu penetrowali twoją erekcję, eee George
1:47:30
Bush po serii perwersyjnych i LW komentarzy i wydarzeń pojawił się
1:47:36
i podszedł do Kelly i położył
1:47:42
jego penis w jej ustach, na chwilę, a potem zabrał ją do
1:47:49
inny pokój, który znajdował się w pobliżu, to była sypialnia, która znajdowała się tuż przy tym pokoju i
1:47:56
z tej sypialni słyszałem, słyszałem, jak Kelly krzyczy
1:48:03
ból, jaki George Bush wygłosił wówczas Dickowi Cheneyowi,
1:48:11
podobało mi się, eee, podobało mi się, gdy dzieci czuły ból i wierciły się i
1:48:18
krzyknąłem, a potem usłyszałem, że to się dzieje, gdy jednocześnie
1:48:23
kiedyś Dick Cheney zabrał mnie na dół, przed kominek, było tam
1:48:29
kominek w pokoju i, um, i miał, um
1:48:34
uprawiał ze mną tam stosunek seksualny, który był niezwykle brutalny, eee…
1:48:43
jego nienormalnie duży rozmiar penisa, ale także, hm, ponieważ jaki rozmiar penisa
1:48:50
ma bardzo dużego penisa, tak, bardzo, bardzo dużego, bardzo grubego, eee
1:48:57
całkowicie przeciwny koniec skali, wysłanie ptaka, który z pewnością jest bardzo brutalny w swoim napaści seksualnej, eee on jest
1:49:04
świadomy jego rozmiaru, eee, jest bolesny i mógłby mi zwichnąć szczękę
1:49:14
... eee, seksualnie zaspokajał się w moim gardle i faktycznie wysuwał mi szczękę ze stawu i miałem trwałe uszkodzenie
1:49:21
moja szczęka opadła z powodu seksualnego napaści Cheneya, tylko z powodu jego, hm, jego niezwykłych rozmiarów
1:49:29
więc to było bardzo traumatyczne wydarzenie, cała ta sprawa była na tyle okropna, że ​​faktycznie...
1:49:38
zniszczyło to część mojego ówczesnego programowania i musiałem zostać przeprogramowany w Presidio
1:49:46
po tym traumatycznym wydarzeniu, kiedy jechaliśmy, no cóż, z
1:49:53
okolice jeziora Shasta, do którego pojechaliśmy
1:49:58
zabrano nas helikopterem na górę Shasta, a kiedy to się skończyło, przetransportowano nas ponownie helikopterem z powrotem do
1:50:05
Jezioro Shasta, gdzie znajdował się kamper, a Kelly w tym czasie dosłownie umierała
1:50:12
nie mogła oddychać, była bardzo naćpana
1:50:17
temperatura, eee, nie mogła ruszać nerkami i miała ból całego kręgosłupa
1:50:23
z podziękowaniami za napaść seksualną George'a Busha
1:50:35
ty przyjacielu i ja wierzę w przyjaciela na całe życie i Marka i uh, bardzo mi przykro
1:50:43
zadaję ci te pytania i czuję się bardzo niepewnie nawet za pierwszym razem, kiedy się spotkaliśmy, ale to jest część, uh, mojego
1:50:50
próba wyjaśnienia i ludzie mają sceptycyzm co do wszystkich tych rzeczy
1:50:56
cała ta trauma, jak opisujesz tę traumę, która ci się przytrafiła, jak na tobie pracowali i eksperymentowali
1:51:04
Jaki jest rozmiar, którego używają? Czy możesz nam podać więcej wskazówek na ten temat i jak one się różnią?
1:51:11
jak oni na tobie robią różne traumy od początku było sen jedzenie i
1:51:18
niedobór wody, który zwykle występował przez 3 dni przed wystąpieniem konkretnego zdarzenia
1:51:24
sesja programowania lub jakaś konkretna operacja, którą musiałem wykonać
1:51:30
niedobór wody był szczególnie trudny, zwłaszcza w
1:51:36
Karaiby lub jakieś gorące miejsca, hm, o jakich miejscach mówisz, jeśli będziesz tak miły, to wiem
1:51:43
Jeśli masz problem z zapamiętaniem wszystkiego, powiedz nam, w jakich miejscach możesz to zrobić? Jesteś na Karaibach, tak, eee
1:51:50
Portoryko i Wyspy Dziewicze były tam i to było to
1:51:58
nazywana wyspą zewnętrzną dla Karoliny Północnej, to mała, odległa wyspa, nie tak daleko od
1:52:05
Bahamy i niedaleko Key West ta mała wyspa była naprawdę najpiękniejsza
1:52:12
aktywna operacja narkotykowa. Widziałem Norę na tej wyspie. Ma też radio.
1:52:21
wieże kontrolne dla samolotów do operacji narkotykowych, mają sterowanie radiowe
1:52:27
dla statków, aby w razie gdyby działo się coś naprawdę ważnego
1:52:32
inną wyspę, mogliby faktycznie zmienić kurs statku, z jakiegokolwiek powodu, wymówką, że dali złą pogodę, cokolwiek
1:52:39
pojechać na te inne wyspy, ponieważ głównym celem NCL była CIA
1:52:45
operacje kokainowe, więc mieli jedną małą wyspę i nazywała się Sturup
1:52:50
K kiedy, kiedy mogłeś nazwać początek swoich tortur, uh, jako dziecko, zakładam i kiedy
1:52:58
Kiedy to było, jeśli możesz sobie przypomnieć i jak to było wykonane, czy możesz nam podać jakieś, wiesz, zupełnie...
1:53:04
analysis from the beginning of your torture time that you can recall there's um except the fact that she was abused
1:53:11
by your father yeah the sexual abuse of course and then I witnessed a murder U by my father when I was about 3 years
1:53:18
old that was um there was no way to really understand
1:53:24
all about death even then to me I was so small but it was very traumatic just the
1:53:29
same because the man was shot he had stumbled onto our camp while we were
1:53:34
camping out on the high banks in near um mosan Michigan and it was hunting season
1:53:42
and he was a hunter and he had happened to stumble onto our camp while my father was passing us kids around the campfire
1:53:48
to my other uncles who were also sexually abusing us so in other words your father was having sex with you and
1:53:55
your brother yes when this guy happened to accidentally stumble onto the campsite and when he realized what he
1:54:01
saw he turned to run and my father shot him um was your father ever prosecuted
1:54:06
for that no not at all not at all there was no um no no problems um that arose
1:54:14
from that that I was ever aware of it all it certainly created more problems
1:54:20
in my mind so that was very traumatic there were numerous traumas like that
1:54:26
and like um my daughter's abuse that were um especially difficult
1:54:32
psychological traumas to deal with the psychological traumas are far more
1:54:39
devastating Than Physical trauma to me I have no fear now um I was asked One Time
1:54:46
by a customs agent he said aren't you afraid they'll get you and torture you now I said I'm not afraid of that at all
1:54:53
because I know how far torture goes it only goes so far and then it doesn't matter anymore physical torture just I
1:55:00
know what the what the experience is like and how far it goes um my body
1:55:07
still Bears a lot of scars from the physical tortures the um stun gun has
1:55:13
left um moles and proud marks in in my skin on
1:55:18
my back and my arms and my legs uh my head has been been caved in the skull is
1:55:24
um who who was performing that on you um different people were using the stun
1:55:30
guns sometimes Secret Service sometimes um uh especially Lieutenant Colonel
1:55:36
Michael Aquino Philip Habib um Alex who was Philip Habib
1:55:42
Philip khabib was Reagan Zach has he was a um some kind of international Diplomat
1:55:48
I don't fully understand exactly what his um operations were although I know what his
1:55:55
agenda was and it was New World Order so there were um quite a few people that
1:56:01
use I'm sorry now talking talking about this torture uh uh Mark you have uh one
1:56:08
of the the the weapon that Kelly described before can you tell us more
1:56:14
and Kelly can you tell me how they use this in you well this is uh one variety
1:56:19
there are many varieties of these things um uses a usually a 9vt battery and
1:56:25
converts it from 100 uh to 210,000
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volts uh DC current um it's um it's quite powerful you can
1:56:37
you can see the the blue spark there mhm and um what it does is it is it
1:56:43
instantly constricts all your muscle in your body to where you have no ability
1:56:48
to to holler to make a noise all you do is go straight to the ground mhm um or
1:56:55
if it's done very quickly um you'll see like a flash of light in behind your
1:57:00
eyes how did affect you Kell okay how they perform this on you it was
1:57:06
the same thing they've been using on you yes that's one example of it there's another um uh cylindrical kind that was
1:57:14
used internally I was a a vaginal Pride that um was um
1:57:25
I think a lower voltage so I was more aware or could feel the pain of it
1:57:31
whereas if I was hit with a higher voltage stun gun it usually was a matter of things going black and you know and
1:57:38
and going down this creates uh flu like symptoms you get um uh after about uh 10
1:57:46
seconds of administering this what you wind up having is someone who is uh
1:57:52
usually constricted on the ground they're disoriented they do not know where they are um they don't know um um
1:58:02
what time of day it is they don't know anything because uh their brain sugar has instantly been reduced to the point
1:58:09
to where they're Delirious um if if you hold it on much longer than 20 seconds all you're going
1:58:16
to do is uh the person is going to be out for for uh several minutes
1:58:22
and uh when they do recover their their Mobility is impaired to the point to where they can't fight run do much of
1:58:29
anything my my other question is uh uh to you pointed out Mark uh you one of
1:58:36
the people asked me question one of the editors um why you not publish your book
1:58:43
uh by some publisher well there was a very interesting question that I would like you to have today respond I could
1:58:49
not get the answer because we didn't know each other some much I believe your story from the beginning and uh I would
1:58:55
like to have this Con from you um in the United States um there are are um there
1:59:02
are laws which protect so-called freedom of speech um particularly if you are a
1:59:09
party to an action and since I was a a party to this action and since I had
1:59:15
been threatened and the threats had been documented uh the threats coming from the federal government or
1:59:21
Representatives of the United States government um it made me a party to the
1:59:26
action of uh exposing this this atrocity um had had I permitted someone
1:59:33
else to publish the book and we had many Publishers that were willing to publish it and pay us well for publishing it um
1:59:41
I would have lost I would have lost the ability to have maintained the the
1:59:46
content of of the book itself and I would also have lost the book itself
1:59:51
there have been been several people to publish books similar to what Kathy and I have published and the CIA just simply
1:59:57
comes in and buys the rights and uh buys prob to cover up people and literally
2:00:03
removes them from the shelves of the bookstores and that's the end of it there's no more uh available um so your
2:00:10
Asic was not exactly to make money to make sensation out of it and that's the reason that I felt you both to be in the
2:00:17
very same uh because my motive is to expose that mind control operation of
2:00:22
humans as something very dangerous and something has to be punished all over the world to the media and I will do my
2:00:29
best in my effort to do so but I'm very glad to hear that kind of answer from you that you you not particularly uh
2:00:35
gain was to get money out of it and to be a rich man and to get out of it at at
2:00:41
some at several points in the past eight years Kathy and I could have sold our story and um if we agreed to be silenced
2:00:50
uh we could have sold it and she would have had enough money to have lived off of the rest of her life and I could have recovered my life I I invested more in
2:00:58
this than than anyone would be willing to pay me frankly uh because I was willing to do it and I get did it
2:01:03
willingly but um there's no amount of money that can silence us that's absurd
2:01:10
it can't happen other aspect that I noticed as as a man who is following now it became friends and I'm really much
2:01:17
very much uh listening you and I really appreciate that your company was the way
2:01:22
how you m together and the way that you simply dedicated your your future life
2:01:29
to something that you didn't know about what will be happen out of it something is very dangerous but your probably
2:01:36
inside soul and insta instinct tells you that maybe uh that is your dedication to
2:01:43
the humanity that you somehow to your previous job didn't get as uh
2:01:49
satisfactory I believe well as you as you know uh during the late 60s and
2:01:55
early 70s I was exposed to um as a United States Department of Defense
2:02:03
subcontractor uh I was exposed to some MK Ultra or mind control
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experimentation uh legitimate experimentation uh that didn't involve torture it did not involve any sort of
2:02:15
trauma um it was um more in line with uh rehabilitating criminals and in uh uh
2:02:23
people involved in mental institution settings um also with apes and uh
2:02:30
Dolphins uh behavioral modification programs is actually what they were entitled but what I learned from uh
2:02:39
those experiences and from what my own research led me to believe was that mind control or external control of the mind
2:02:47
um was um perhaps the greatest threat to Mankind's
2:02:53
survival uh certainly with it's the last freedom that we have uh that is not
2:03:00
currently being encumbered on a mass scale it is encumbered on on on
2:03:05
individual scales like Kathy is telling you but uh when presented with the opportunity
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and I look at it as an opportunity book to to actually U make a positive difference I found no
2:03:21
no alternative there wasn't a choice um had there been a choice um
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logically I would not have done what I did but um uh there was no choice the
2:03:33
choice was very simple to rescue Kathy and Kelly and to get this information into the Public's ear I just didn't
2:03:40
realize it would take me so long to accomplish this goal there were so many government secrets and personal
2:03:46
reputation staked on the belief that I couldn't be deprogrammed and I know I'm
2:03:51
extremely fortunate to have survived all of this but they were they were wrong in
2:03:57
believing that because they made that belief predicated on their own immoral
2:04:03
thought processes and they're Limited in their Thinking by their own immorality they never considered that someone like
2:04:09
Mark would use the information that he had for good to actually help to help
2:04:15
not not only me but to help help Humanity but I think the most
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um if there's a happy ending to this story personally it would be that we
2:04:30
have fallen in love and the love Factor has been very significant in my recovery because not only did he save my life but
2:04:37
I have um uh certainly have a reason to live it and the love factor is extremely
2:04:45
important I feel like most people spend their lifetime looking for a love and never find it and um at 38 now I've I've
2:04:54
got that love and um that's a your emotions back and feeling see when I was
2:05:00
talking to some people I even describe I was tell little bit of my uh Expressions I said this is like a pigmalion story on
2:05:07
the way professor and remember palian story My Fair Lady uh but in different uh frame and
2:05:15
picture and different time I really appreciate it very much the way you describe me the situations so can you
2:05:21
actually describe me the way you met for the first time and how how everything happened and uh um I first of all I need
2:05:30
to to apply just a little bit of History I had um a business with the People's Republic of
2:05:37
China and the uh uh milit Chinese military we were we were involved in a
2:05:44
joint venture company to manufacture large capacitor banks that were used in
2:05:50
Energy savings uh for the mining industry the mining industry was having to shut down every
2:05:56
other day because of a lack of electricity and um the mining industry
2:06:01
of course was controlled by the military over there because it was metal they have um a rather odd Arrangement on how
2:06:08
they uh control certain things but um as a result of my agreement uh joint
2:06:16
venture contracts with the uh People's Republic of China um and the military
2:06:25
they were very concerned about um who my business partners were apparently and Alex Houston uh Kathy o O'Brien's
2:06:34
Handler uh back in the States was in fact a uh business partner of mine thank
2:06:40
you it was a business partner of mine and um actually was a one of the people
2:06:46
that was instrumental in uh helping me put this company together I was was told by the Chinese
2:06:53
Chinese intelligence I was approached by them after the signing of the contract that I had a partner in the United
2:06:59
States Alex Houston who was involved in drug trafficking child and adult
2:07:04
prostitution pornography money laundering and it was working for the
2:07:09
CIA and and it was sanctioned by the White House meaning uh at the highest
2:07:16
level which Cel was that in China in which place in China you remember call it um I have the pictures I'm not sure
2:07:24
oh yes I am too it was called the International Hotel in Beijing um is uh
2:07:30
where actually this uh meeting took place um a secondary meeting took place
2:07:35
at a at a uh uh facility in the shinen province in southern
2:07:42
China um but uh the Chinese offered to provide me the
2:07:49
funding to buy Alex Houston app which they provided it uh not only did
2:07:54
they give me a $1 million letter of credit through BCCI in New York but they
2:08:01
also provided me with cash to purchase Alex Houston's stock uh I returned to the United States
2:08:08
I bought Alex Houston stock I contacted uh a general friend of mine uh because
2:08:14
of the words mind control being introduced into all this uh conversation that I'd had with a Chinese intelligence
2:08:20
officer and I explained to him what I was up against and he told me that mind
2:08:26
control as I knew it from the' 60s and70s research was fully operational
2:08:32
and was saturating the private sector in other words the civilians were being
2:08:38
abused with it well it was at that point was your a friend from CIA who told you that uh actually yes he was CIA but he
2:08:44
was also um a high ranking military official in Military Intelligence um his
2:08:50
connection to the C CIA at that time I was not aware of I had I've only recently learned that he had CIA
2:08:56
connections um he was um US military intelligence which is a separate thing
2:09:03
but uh this gentleman had um tried to convince me that that people like Kathy
2:09:09
were not um helpable you that there was no help available for them and that once
2:09:15
I got her and her daughter out of there uh I would just have two insane people on my hands and I could not possibly
2:09:22
help them even with the knowledge that I'd acquired um on this topic but um
2:09:28
fortunately my this friend was wrong because he put me in touch with some other people uh within US military
2:09:35
intelligence who were very Cooperative in giving me the information I needed to
2:09:40
not only get her out uh but also to help put her back together and uh so they
2:09:47
they've been also engaged in this uh in this uh operation and they knew the Technologies and de programming in a way
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yes sir and that's what they provided me uh as far as the tools to work with and
2:10:00
uh after working with Kathy about 9 months in Alaska um she had reached a point to
2:10:07
where she was not dissociating or going into any sort of Trance she was uh quite
2:10:13
competent and I felt uh uh could withstand the rigors of
2:10:18
cross-examination uh by the federal Authority part so at that point in time we began in Earnest reporting what she
2:10:27
had experienced with the proofs that we were able to acquire which were very limited at that time uh and the
2:10:34
documents and testimony which was extremely limited just to what really I was able to acquire over a few month
2:10:40
period of time we began to supply that to every single law enforcement agency
2:10:47
in the United States that could impact this case to get it before the people
2:10:53
necessary to have it properly investigated and have these perpetrators charged but we were stopped for reasons
2:10:58
of National Security Now They the bad guys or the perpetrators the ones who
2:11:04
abused she and her daughter and so many others are hiding behind the
2:11:10
1947 National Securities act the National Security Act is
2:11:16
is not a necessary provision in our uh uh
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protection of of government secrets we had the rules of of ethical military conduct which protected our nation
2:11:29
Secrets since its beginning and it was quite adequate what this National Securities act does v is that it
2:11:36
protects perpetrators at the highest level uh for any activity they can do
2:11:42
anything they can run drugs for money they can uh have secret uh parts of the
2:11:48
government that they're funding with drugs and and and other illicit profits um and it's all done under the
2:11:56
guise of National Security and there's nothing that a citizen can do U as far as getting it into court at this point
2:12:03
we keep raising the question in C's case what does National Security have to do with a rape and molestation of a child
2:12:10
because Kelly has been a literally a political prisoner in the custody of the
2:12:16
state of Tennessee she's denied Rehabilitation due to the political
2:12:21
prominence of her CK alra abusers she's waiting for the peace of mind that I
2:12:30
know comes with recovery she's waiting for the day that she'll be free to be herself and that um she'll be free of
2:12:38
this blanket of National Security that's been allowing for the proliferation of
2:12:43
the violation of laws and rights in her case that are um it's absolutely
2:12:49
intolerable and it's blatant she's been a political prisoner for over 5 Years
2:12:54
and we're looking forward to the day when we can get the information out on a
2:12:59
wide enough scale that Kelly can actually be help do you believe that uh I'm very happy and delightful that
2:13:05
tomorrow we're going to meet Kelly and uh that will be able to talk to her and you you told her them coming and I
2:13:11
believe they will have a nice time bringing her for the first time out of this uh facility yes I do believe uh
2:13:18
marking and CAD that that there is some help for her that someone will be able with full knowledge of that destructive
2:13:25
technology of controlling of human Minds to work out also with Cy even she was
2:13:30
exposed no technology available in the private sector civilians have not been
2:13:37
given that that technology um in other words the psychiatrist and and the psychologist
2:13:43
that are in this country and abroad I don't know of any of them that have access to the technology that is
2:13:48
required that I'm aware of uh to to help Kelly what is the major
2:13:55
different between uh Kathy's case and Kelly's case um it's the amount of scarring on the brain stem that occurred
2:14:02
prior to age five um Kathy was abused uh sexually physically um and
2:14:10
psychologically and behaviorally but Kelly was abused through the use of
2:14:15
technology and chemicals um Kelly's Kelly's abuses is
2:14:20
goes much much uh it's much more pronounced uh the
2:14:27
brain damage is much more exensive and Kelly um has a wonderful chance for
2:14:33
Recovery a wonderful chance she's extremely intelligent for one if if in
2:14:39
fact we can force this government to at least and this is what all of this is
2:14:46
about to at least release the equipment that I know is available that would put
2:14:52
that child back together so that she could be a normally uh normally functioning adult in the meantime we've
2:15:00
um nurtured her on a on a a so level at the very essence of her being with love
2:15:08
understanding um and and compassion and also been able to give her an insight
2:15:13
and understanding of herself and why she's in the um the situation that she
2:15:19
is rather than um recovered because her own desire to recover her own
2:15:26
um her own she's she's so motivated inside to
2:15:33
recover that if that could have done it she'd be there but she doesn't know why she wasn't able to bring herself to that
2:15:39
point that's not fair that she should even have to think that way so we we hope to get um access to some kind of
2:15:46
technology that will actually help her stay in control of herself she says that Longs for the day that she can express
2:15:53
herself as she knows she is inside and it's um are you definitely positive that
2:15:59
that there's no access to any more penetration of any kind of influence on
2:16:05
her due the fact that she could be very dangerous uh witness to the much more extensive uh actually cover up on the
2:16:12
her case actually there is no guarantees uh not for Kelly not for me
2:16:18
or Kathy or for that matter you um um but with as much publicity as this case
2:16:24
has been given over the past five years through law enforcement legitimate law
2:16:30
enforcement and legitimate mental health in this country and abroad um I would
2:16:36
say that uh the chances of them abusing Kelly at this point are slim to
2:16:42
none um it would not be practical it would be a um it would be a big red flag
2:16:51
I was also facing the different questions so maybe it's very interesting for you to to open my heart and to tell
2:16:56
you what kind of uh question I got when I was playing the tape that you gave me and all these books uh for the people
2:17:03
that have been very superficially facing that that means not reading your book and not even being capable from the time
2:17:10
point of you to read that they always thought that should be something that Americans are planning on Earth you know
2:17:16
on the way even in Europe in Western Europe but uh from the others they asked me people they're more concerned and
2:17:22
they have some knowledge on that and especially this field is not only in United States field is probably Russia
2:17:27
very developed oh yeah uh in all this uh fistic regimes country in the world that
2:17:34
is not employing uh the same type of mind control that c experience there's
2:17:39
no country in the world that's excluded and that even goes into some of the most um third world uh primitive Societies in
2:17:48
Africa and such as Hy in Haiti you know also kind of Patrol
2:17:56
trauma uh so now most people say how you're still alive how knowing the fact
2:18:01
how CIA is effective and as a matter of fact how easy I was facing situation in my life tra when I was working on crall
2:18:08
I'm probably most dangerous uh Espionage Affair in the world uh by now of being
2:18:14
threatened and been even uh tortured one time and lucky enough I survived that torture but on way uh knowing the such
2:18:23
methodology of killing to kill the person eliminate the person you just need few expert on that uh what kept you
2:18:31
live through this years probably uh the single greatest uh support that we
2:18:37
received were from friends that I have friendships that I have maintained over
2:18:42
the years uh within the intelligence community and within law enforcement these people have guided my path and
2:18:49
Kathy's path uh safely through this Maze of of information
2:18:55
dissemination we have disseminated information uh we know what kind of secrets to keep and what not to keep um
2:19:03
we know what will get you killed and what you can survive with we have literally passed through the window of
2:19:10
opportunity and we have successfully got this information out in such Mass but
2:19:15
now quite honestly um I believe that we're probably safer than most Americans
2:19:22
don't even know about this stuff I don't I don't feel that we are threatened uh for for most the people
2:19:28
that D at a publisher or people from magazines they ask me questions okay we will publish if it's only a matter of um
2:19:36
mind control which is people are weird of one way to Satanism and other me but
2:19:41
how we can comprehend uh child abuse with a very famous name in politics it's very simple
2:19:48
v um there's one kind common denominator between a child abuser and one who isn't
2:19:54
a child abuser that common denominator is their both people and when people are in positions
2:20:02
of absolute power you know that absolute power corrupts absolutely and sometimes
2:20:09
um even the most mild-mannered unper perverted person when they are placed in
2:20:14
in positions of extreme Authority under extreme pressure um and uh they
2:20:22
develop some very sociopathic attitudes towards their fellow man um and in the
2:20:28
process of doing so Express themselves uh sexually in a very perverted way now
2:20:35
this is common knowledge among people who study the mind psychologists psychiatrists and mental health people
2:20:42
they realize that the higher up the latter of success someone Rises the more
2:20:48
perverted uh their sexuality become and the more criminal-minded they become um
2:20:55
uh this has been known throughout history so to say that because this
2:21:00
person is a famous politician or an Entertainer or um or uh
2:21:06
musician it does not make them exempt from uh perverted Behavior as a matter
2:21:11
of fact it accelerates it and this is a matter of human nature so um in the past
2:21:19
you know Rockstar if if they were all arrested for drug use there wouldn't be any rock
2:21:26
stars I mean there wouldn't be any rock and roll because they'd all be locked up
2:21:32
so why aren't they locked up when they use this stuff openly everybody knows they use it they
2:21:38
use it because they buy it so that means they're buying it they're selling it they're using it and they don't go to
2:21:44
prison it's because of society accepts it but they will not accept someone
2:21:49
sitting in the audience using it while they're watching these rock stars use it
2:21:56
um politicians on the other hand pass laws to have uh perverted persons locked
2:22:01
up but they themselves are practicing the perversions and they are above the
2:22:07
law because they have placed themselves that way so that's really the only only
2:22:13
answer that I can think of logically to answer your question other other means that uh other
2:22:20
other questions I was asking you there's other other question was asked from me from the people that I was showing the
2:22:26
film to was uh what is the perspective of a majority of Americans are there
2:22:34
aware that they came to the stage of very strange situation which we know as
2:22:39
Arville 84 book but Orville Arville book 84 as total control uh you know we was
2:22:47
having a lot of films on that and is right right Hollywood industry is full of those films how do you think because
2:22:53
you have uh access to reality you have access to be with KY who was actually
2:22:59
one of those robber that he was watching even in in in Hollywood by the time what
2:23:05
is your opinion about uh this country where this country is going is that phenomena scaring a lot of people in
2:23:11
this country George Orwell uh in 1949 gave us some pretty Grim
2:23:16
predictions based on um some theories that he developed based on uh some
2:23:22
technology that he knew that were being developed George Orwell had connections into the intelligence
2:23:28
Community um both British MI6 as well as CIA in those days it was the
2:23:36
OSS um George Orwell when he wrote his book uh books and many of them um he
2:23:42
predicted a society which would uh through Natural Evolution be controlled
2:23:49
through its own technology um when you secret knowledge equals power and when you have secret knowledge
2:23:56
technologically speaking you can control whomever for instance the United
2:24:02
States is in control of the world at this time due to its technology
2:24:08
advancement now um technology has a way of of not being a table or protectable
2:24:16
asset um as a matter of fact um more ESP has committed uh in search of
2:24:23
technological Secrets than any other single um piece of secret knowledge or
2:24:29
information that any government or Corporation can can contain so secret knowledge is very very important for
2:24:37
control we as a people are not as average American person are not aware
2:24:44
that the government is about 25 to 30 years ahead of us technologically
2:24:50
speaking now auk I asked you the camera that you're working with right now was
2:24:57
not even thought of 25 years ago much less available so the so technology um if you
2:25:05
removed everything from your life uh that was not in existence 25 years ago
2:25:12
you would practically remove everything that you have including some of your clothing because of
2:25:18
Technology um man has got to evolve through this technological breakthrough we will defy
2:25:27
what George Orwell predicted and which has come true big brother is in fact
2:25:32
watching us all but uh uh through the use of Technology but mankind will and
2:25:38
must evolve through it or mankind will fail species from from my
2:25:45
perspective people tend to pick and choose what they want to believe of my victory ization predicated on their own
2:25:52
experience and in The Last 5 Years people can relate to it more because it
2:25:57
is their experience more and more people are affected in some aspect by mind control they're affected by someone a
2:26:04
loved one that's in Special Forces with the military or someone who has been
2:26:10
affected by occultism and blood trauma and mind control through that there's
2:26:15
people affected through child abuse scandals that are not seeing any justice
2:26:22
in this country there's people that are most widely affected through the global
2:26:29
education process that's been implemented in the school system that's where the education system has been
2:26:37
changed and designed to increase the children's learning capacity while
2:26:42
decreasing their ability to critically analyze it's making them robotic they
2:26:48
come home to the to their parents as children that their parents don't even
2:26:53
recognize anymore they don't know who those children are it's like the young man who goes off and uh is recruited by
2:27:00
uh the military and then is put into a special forces training and he comes
2:27:05
back and he has no memory of of any of his personal life his parents barely
2:27:11
recognize his Persona um and his loved ones no longer
2:27:16
even know who he is now this isn't to say that Global education is the kind of experience that I had my experience was
2:27:24
extreme and I was totally robotic these kids are coming out of school in a
2:27:30
slightly robotic state they're they're coming out with a completely different attitude towards life so there's like a
2:27:36
sliding scale of mind control but nevertheless more and more people in this country are affected in one way or
2:27:41
another so they are wide open to that reality plus with the erosion of our constitutional values with our our
2:27:48
country having been um just completely eroded morally and
2:27:54
and uh financially people are opening their eyes a little bit they're beginning to ask questions and demand
2:28:01
answers as to what went on so they're more ready to expect the information our government has created Total Chaos in
2:28:06
this country by flooding the streets with drugs drugs that are addictive
2:28:12
drugs that are are debilitating and drugs that will will capture all of the
2:28:18
uh not only disposable incomes of the uh lower class middle class upper class but
2:28:25
also their entire life savings and they they know that the CIA is involved in
2:28:30
the drug industry I don't know anybody that doesn't know that in this country the average drug dealer on the streets
2:28:35
just kids know that if they're not part of CIA operations they're going to get busted so that's the that's the word on
2:28:43
um in the slums to the kids that are selling drugs on the street corners so people are aware that there's a big
2:28:49
problem in this country so what kind of society is a society between uh slaves and mustard or what which which way are
2:28:56
we going to which way this government is take a look back in history and see what
2:29:02
Adolf Hitler's Vision was for for the his new world order and that's exactly what we're headed into unless we get the
2:29:10
information out the only defense against mind control is knowledge we've been
2:29:16
Opera they have been operating on the um idea that secret knowledge equals power
2:29:22
and in fact that has been true we need to tell those secrets that's why Mark and I have written the book that's why
2:29:28
we're getting the information out that's why we have so many behind us dedicated to getting this information out people
2:29:34
have a right to know and a need to know this information for the sake of humanity as we know it how about uh just
2:29:42
uh you appeared and lot of uh uh how many talk shows you're appearing uh and
2:29:48
how many uh conference uh you was appearing with um book I don't have an
2:29:54
exact figure I can guesstimate from the number of years and the number of stops and just by a drawer full
2:30:02
of uh cancelled airline tickets probably
2:30:10
U probably 150 uh personal appearances and probably
2:30:16
uh with caddy together right oh always always always always and uh
2:30:21
probably twice that many radio and television shows both in the United
2:30:27
States and Canada when the television shows were taking place now television
2:30:32
show the TV shots were usually limited to uh uh news people coming in to
2:30:38
seminars and taking 5 minute two minute one minute film clips of what we were talking about um we have done a couple
2:30:46
of on uh on camera interviews with uh uh some people uh investigative reporters
2:30:53
and those have been aired in various markets uh we did one 4our segment for a Christian uh broadcast group uh which
2:31:02
was there in 30 minute increments eight shows you have this tape here actually I I can get it the master
2:31:09
I have here I copied it so many times it's it's finished lowy interview okay not I'm not pleased with
2:31:16
it um it was back in the early days where I was unable to say something some of the things that we wanted to say
2:31:21
because we did not have hard proof or hard testimony uh corroborating
2:31:26
testimony and the media is so controlled and censored we've had to do this um oh yeah we've had to do this a difficult
2:31:32
way you making copies and getting information out and and now that we've got the book at least it's a an easier
2:31:39
more um comprehensive vehicle for getting me information me that you was
2:31:45
together with 60 minutes once and he they were doing story what's happened with that segment and how the situation
2:31:51
was looking like that segment was filmed in uh California uh videotaped and uh the
2:32:00
interviewer um with tears in his eyes Bo told Kathy
2:32:06
that someday her story will be told but not now in other words and I off
2:32:14
camera I asked him I said where is this tape going he said it's going back to
2:32:20
minutes I said who is it for he said why I said who is it for he said it's for the CIA they want to see what you're
2:32:27
talking about my very similar experience talking about 60 minutes I was uh I was
2:32:33
sent to 60 Minutes to the very distinguished gentleman that I respect David berer of New York Times who discover a very similar self Afflicted
2:32:40
terrorist act by the Muslim in Saro which was used as pretext for bombing of the service even that everybody knew
2:32:46
there was not d by there but I was also in 60 minutes I was with Don hu woking
2:32:51
Legend of American journalism I was showing uh to his um producer um one of them was Jeff fager
2:32:59
who I mentioned one of the film which was actually airing to them as maybe last Hest story about American children
2:33:06
was story about kawai's daughter of Kuwaiti Ambassador who was one month uh pretending to be a witness from
2:33:14
the KU and how kids were killed and Bush was you know even knowing the fact that she was daughter to KU in bador quoting
2:33:21
her statements um don't he would went for half an hour to inform himself from CIA
2:33:29
he came back and he said your story is right I cannot air your story because
2:33:35
they will damage the whole industry of media they will damage the whole thing so I'm very sorry that is the biggest
2:33:41
challenge I ever had biggest conspiracy that I heard of but I'm sorry I cannot
2:33:47
make it end of discussion so understand that some topics we'll never but I hope
2:33:52
that this topic will be very soon aired in the future and we'll do something about that well it's happening now as as
2:34:00
U I mentioned earlier we are we've had more
2:34:06
press uh good solid press interested in what we're talking about in the last 5
2:34:12
months than we've had in the last uh 8 years and uh we are are in fact winning
2:34:20
Bo I think it's the people's demand for answers that's causing the Medias to start coming around because people have
2:34:26
gone totally to Alternative Medias the radio and shortwave and um what they call
2:34:33
underground newspapers and and things like that which are in essence Patriot newspapers but the um the there's so
2:34:41
many people the majority of the people are turning to the alternative Medias to
2:34:46
the point where the mainstream media is going to have to just get with it now are are lose out entirely I mean it's
2:34:52
just time for it to turn around the demand of the people has risen to that proportion in this country
2:34:58
exactly so you're planning also I was told that uh what you tell what you can tell me about this Global education uh
2:35:06
order what is this all about and how you understand we didn't have or we don't we
2:35:11
not aware of that in Europe for time being makes me wonder if it's under a
2:35:17
different name there's a lot of different names that's used um in this country in Canada and Mexico
2:35:23
that I'm aware of the global education 2000 um goals 2000 in this country it's
2:35:30
referred to as America 2000 outcome based education so there's a lot of different names but in essence it's a
2:35:37
form of of teaching that is me teaching
2:35:44
a method of teaching through computers and headphones that affects the
2:35:50
subconscious more directly the same stuff we were working on the 60s and 70s for NASA so that astronauts could
2:35:57
remember everything that they saw in while in space some of those same principles are being applied in our
2:36:05
schools using simple computers back in those days though they didn't have simple computers they were quite
2:36:10
elaborate it would fill a room with equipment now you can have on your
2:36:16
lap so what is the philosophy behind also on the control of the masses or
2:36:22
what is global education what do you it is an absolute control of the masses and supposedly a a control on the growth
2:36:30
national product the productivity of these children when they emerge as adults and are going to be in a work
2:36:36
environment it's a very easy way to um
2:36:41
uh put them into certain classifications uh very quickly very
2:36:47
simply and everybody does the same job um uh that they're assigned supposedly
2:36:53
much more efficiently um there seems to be a tremendous amount of questions whether or not that could actually
2:36:59
happen um in some areas I can assure you that efficiency does go up but U uh
2:37:06
creativity goes down and our species our human species has evolved because of its
2:37:13
ability to become creative once our creativity is stifled then uh we will be
2:37:19
plunged into a dark ages that of that would I suppose rival anything in
2:37:25
history so we're on the threshold for that now when I was forced to work under
2:37:33
Secretary of Education Bill Bennett during the Reagan Administration I was forced to deliver a
2:37:40
message to the state Governors at a convention that was being held and this
2:37:46
particular message included the idea that they could control the future by
2:37:53
controlling the children and that by controlling the information that the
2:37:59
children learn and in other words adjusting history to fit their own
2:38:04
agenda that um they could actually be um affecting the future and in us I suppose
2:38:11
that that's true that children are our but how you explain the phenomena
2:38:16
how many people that you believe and how many pro programs of Mind Control existing now and how many people that
2:38:22
you know that were together with you he was also mentioning School of charm something like that as there as the the
2:38:27
charm school where the sex slaves um in particular were taken through and there
2:38:32
were a half dozen to a dozen girls going through at a time for a 3-day Course and
2:38:39
there were so many mind controlled slaves in my own controlled environment
2:38:46
that I I genuinely believe that the whole world was involved in mind control
2:38:51
I thought that's the way the world was um there were that many I don't know the exact um the exact number where was that
2:38:59
that School located and how many people was attending can they call it course um Youngstown
2:39:07
Ohio and it was um it was some military Bays or no no um actually it was part of
2:39:14
the the um university area and it was a
2:39:19
um an old Museum type house that was um
2:39:25
used by a uh banking family here that's quite
2:39:30
affluent the melon um banking family so they were involved directly in my
2:39:37
victimization um the um so-called governor of charm
2:39:42
school was that was steuart pran melon that I'm aware of but um there were
2:39:49
there were quite a few girls that were that were run through there and I went through there um on the average of once
2:39:57
a year for reprogramming or additional um what kind of uh what kind of uh program was there what what have you
2:40:03
have been what it what it thought through there um per to fulfill different perversions for example um
2:40:11
there was a oral sex program that um
2:40:17
involved not breathing for an extended period of time so that the um man would
2:40:27
be gratifying himself in the throat without allowing for any breathing to go on and he would actually become um so
2:40:35
excited by the idea that he could be suffocating the girl that um that would
2:40:41
be his sexual thrill and that was one thing that we were taught it was called a three minute Miracle um to be able to
2:40:48
to sexually gratify someone uh before before you were killed and I am aware of
2:40:55
girls that died exactly that way other perversions included uh
2:41:00
beastiality and um and the uh bisexuality there were just there were
2:41:07
numerous perversions there it was done on University and in a special area
2:41:12
University who was a teacher there no it wasn't it wasn't associated with the university it was just near the younger
2:41:19
to University um area within that um um
2:41:25
melon home so it was uh nobody actually lived there it was used strictly for uh
2:41:32
bringing girls in on occasion I really don't know how often the doors were open if they stayed open or if they only
2:41:38
opened them on certain occasions is that the bank that was involved in this drug trafficking and a lot of scandals United
2:41:43
States Jim traffic an was was involved and he's a um US Congress man that has
2:41:50
infiltrated the Patriot groups acting like he's somebody that is concerned for the welfare of our country when in fact
2:41:56
that's not his agenda at all and he was one of those he and Dick thornberg um were among those that would
2:42:05
um test the girls to see if they could actually be released from charm schill
2:42:10
it's very torturous okay so Mark you have some additional material that was
2:42:16
requested from a publisher and people the media in Europe that you would like
2:42:21
to present me today what material we talking about that you'll be giving supporting your book and your teases
2:42:27
there's been a variety of uh Publications that have been put out over the past U we'll say 5 years that
2:42:37
support the vast majority of everything that's in our book um a general Russell
2:42:46
Bowen um wrote the immaculate deception subtitled the bush crime Family
2:42:53
exposed um he goes into Bush's oil worldwide oil deals his um his
2:42:59
Arrangements that he has made with the Arab world um his um his cocaine
2:43:06
business and drug business out of the far east as well as that of uh South
2:43:11
America um General Bowen worked for George Bush and he worked for the CIA
2:43:20
for a number of years and actually believed that he was importing drugs to
2:43:26
be distributed in the Soviet Union um he felt like this was part of
2:43:32
the psychological warfare that we were waging against the Soviet Union he did not realize that George Bush was
2:43:38
actually putting these drugs on the streets of America and when he did he
2:43:44
began to testify against uh his own government and as a result well up being
2:43:49
imprisoned himself now Russell or general Bowen is now living in Peru he
2:43:55
moved about 5 weeks ago he moved um actually the uh uh second third third
2:44:01
week in February of 1996 of this year but um uh he did produce a wonderful
2:44:08
document called U the immaculate deception and um like many other books
2:44:14
that describe what Kathy O'Brien experienced at the hands of our
2:44:20
government um as a slave in the drug muing and prostitution business um she
2:44:29
she also had provided facts um actually before uh general b wrote his book she
2:44:36
provided the facts to a number of persons that are familiar to me um both in Military Intelligence and
2:44:45
and and within the CIA um in addition to just this one book we
2:44:53
have probably our largest single files are medical
2:44:59
documentations um there are literally thousands of pages of medical documentation where the psychologist and
2:45:06
psychiatrist that have examined Kathy O'Brien um and her daughter have all
2:45:14
confirmed what we know are the findings in addition to that Canadian
2:45:20
intelligence of whom I am acquainted with some of the members um have
2:45:25
provided uh more information with regards to some of the perpetrators that
2:45:30
Kathy O'Brien mentions such as Michael Aquino who is head of the or was
2:45:37
formerly a United States Army colonel in charge of psychological
2:45:43
warfare um here at in the United States he's a very famous figure he as a
2:45:49
Nazi form ritual as a matter of fact he Embraces um the whole philosophy of
2:45:55
Nazism and um uh he was uh a few years ago in
2:46:01
1987 uh there was a search warrant issued as a result of some complaints by
2:46:07
uh local children being molested in his home well when they went into his home
2:46:13
they did find a number of Articles uh relating to Nazi belief systems uh
2:46:21
symbologies symbols things of this nature but they also found something else um Colonel
2:46:28
quino um is head of a the what is known as the Temple of set the Temple of set
2:46:35
is actually a spin-off Church of the Church of Satan
2:46:40
um like um hinr himler was researching and by the way Hinrich himler is his
2:46:47
hero um Hinrich himler was studying the Black Arts and and trying to understand
2:46:54
more about um the effect on the person's mind that is exposed to these blood
2:47:00
rituals and sort of thing um what amazingly enough uh Colonel Aquino uh
2:47:07
found out that this uh was a wonderful trauma base for controlling people's
2:47:13
minds um Kathy O'Brien and her daughter both had and unfortunately
2:47:19
a great deal of exposure to Michael Aquino and we have a number of people in the United States military who have Ste
2:47:26
followed and provided credible testimony to support her um her her findings and
2:47:33
statements and and uh testimony before federal agents um it's unusual and I
2:47:38
must tell you this Michael quino has sued he's a he's a litigant he has sued
2:47:44
everyone who has ever uh attacked him in a publication
2:47:49
or on radio or on television and he in some of his lawsuits have been quite successful uh we are the only
2:47:57
exception the reason being is because if he would sue us we could take him to
2:48:02
court with hard proof of his abuses of Kathy and her daughter and of course
2:48:08
this is the same situation that exists with George Bush and some of the others but
2:48:13
um uh Michael L quino had a book uh written
2:48:19
around him and I'll read you something and it says what most people don't know
2:48:25
and what US law enforcement officers are only beginning to discover is that Satanism is the fastest growing
2:48:31
underground criminal movement in the world today and that it is directly linked to an exploding number of child
2:48:38
abuse cases Nazism drug dealing pornography and
2:48:43
prostitution now this sounds very familiar because this is exactly what Kathy ran has been talking about Linda
2:48:51
blood is A friend of mine as a matter of fact we are mentioned in her book several times this new Satanist that
2:48:57
came out last year by Dell publishing here in the United States um the CIA did
2:49:03
not want it to stay on the market so they stopped the publication just as they would have ours had we allowed a
2:49:09
publisher to handle it but um uh this particular book literally rips off the
2:49:16
covers of secrecy concerning my M quino's use of Nazism and blood traumas
2:49:22
and Satanism to externally control the Mind through trauma I might I notic that in
2:49:28
most of this book that you provide me as extra material to your book uh we are
2:49:34
facing a similarity between Nazism Nazi Germany and United States today or
2:49:39
George Bush you know World War order uh in all this material is it coincidence
2:49:45
or you believe that's formally like that I believe like many uh Intelligence Officers believe and many federal
2:49:52
officers believe who are associated closely with the with the mechanism in
2:49:58
Washington that Nazism is Alive and Well in this country because it was just simply exported from Germany in the
2:50:05
40s um I I'm adamant to say that I don't
2:50:10
believe Nazism ever died I just think it was resurrected over here because as our
2:50:17
conversations earlier in the day concerning Project Paperclip have proven
2:50:22
that we imported all these scientists with all these ideas and um how to create chaos in a
2:50:29
society and they have done an excellent job what other material is you providing us well um there's um there's a a great
2:50:38
number of bodies of research concerning uh himler uh use of uh of people in
2:50:45
human experiments to create uh the perfect proverbial mansurian candidate
2:50:52
um uh all of this research has been has been uh actually collected by a number of of
2:51:00
topnotch Physicians and lawyers around this country I've been very privileged
2:51:06
to have been a part of contributing from my experience in the 60s and the 70s
2:51:11
working for the defense department and being associated with the project known as MK Ultra which is of course uh the
2:51:18
United St government's code name for the Mind Control experiments um in addition to that there
2:51:24
are and this is some of the lawyers uh briefs about uh what they have
2:51:30
discovered uh so far as the secret government goes in our country that is actually undermining the efforts of
2:51:37
every good person in this country um uh the Mormon Church of course is been
2:51:43
highly affected much like the Catholics are because their belief systems have um
2:51:48
have actually been uh here's a here's an article here top Mormon officials U probe member allegations of
2:51:57
satanic abuse um the Mormon church is literally
2:52:02
Under Fire right now because they're claiming that better than
2:52:07
60% of the of the children in the Mormon Church in some way or another have been
2:52:14
sexually um and psychologically abused um in their daycare settings and other
2:52:20
Church sponsored um uh functions it's um it's
2:52:26
really it's reached the point now epidemic stage in this country you know b um in 1980 there were 200 cases of
2:52:35
this dissociative identity disorder that the American Psychiatric and American Psychological associations had had um
2:52:43
had actually published there were 200 reported cases in 199 there were a
2:52:49
quarter of a million cases reported in this country in 1995 2 and a half
2:52:56
million cases reported you child abuse uh no of multiple personality disorder
2:53:02
or or uh um what is known as dissociative identity disorder that's
2:53:07
what Kathy O'Brien and her daughter suffered from any anything anywhere publicly uh numbers that you are
2:53:14
mentioning now do you have any any uh quotation from that magazine scientific magazine yes um the American Psychiatric
2:53:20
association is the one who compiled these figures from their group of participating psychiatrist across the
2:53:28
United States and actually Canada too is included in the studies I I I could understand logically putting all this
2:53:34
facts analogies together that we're talking now about mind control operation
2:53:40
a big scale United States which scary me is that what you want to say it's very scary yes sir and it is big big uh in
2:53:47
terms of numbers because because uh V when you're talking about 2 and A2 million people and the estimates are
2:53:54
that only one in 10 are actually seen and diagnosed you're talking about 20 to
2:54:00
25 million people that constitutes a sizable portion of the United States
2:54:05
with a serious psychological problem serious th those kind of people are
2:54:11
capable of becoming serial killers um they usually suicide themselves at very
2:54:16
young ages um they themselves will be child abusers they'll abuse their own
2:54:22
children and not even know they're doing it it becomes autogenic behavior in other words it's just a a knee-jerk
2:54:28
response system um in addition to that you asked
2:54:33
me a question you said is Kathy O'Brien the first person that uh has ever come
2:54:42
forward the answer to you uh then was no there's been many but only one has ever
2:54:48
been considered completely put together and uh competent and had her case
2:54:54
documented as well as Cathy and that was a lady by the name of candy Jones candy
2:55:00
Jones this is a copy of a book that was published in U
2:55:07
1976 I believe and uh candy Jones
2:55:14
um let's see well yeah 1976 excuse me um Candy
2:55:21
Jones was used by the CIA as a um as a prostitute um as a mind control
2:55:29
prostitute uh she had suffered sexual abuse as a child her husband was a
2:55:34
prominent radio announcer in New York and um his name was Long John um Neville
2:55:42
and uh Mr Neville was quite successful in in listing the services of friends
2:55:48
with within the intelligence Community who actually persuaded the CIA to admit
2:55:55
that they had been using this woman as a proverbial Manchurian Candidate or a
2:56:01
mind control slave well uh other than candy Jones no one else the CIA has ever
2:56:07
admitted doing this to um even though they were caught in Canada in the early
2:56:14
70s or actually late 60s they were caught um using seen a uh
2:56:20
psychiatrist uh that they were paying the CIA was paying to torture individuals at a particular mental
2:56:27
hospital in Montreal a Dr Yuan Cameron by the way it
2:56:32
it should be noted that Dr Cameron was the original founder of the American Psychiatric association and was the um
2:56:40
uh the man that our head of the intelligence Community uh Alan Dulles in
2:56:46
the 50s um put into the position of um being in control of MK
2:56:53
ala so my control is not new in this country or any other country it's been
2:56:58
around for thousands of years but the sophistication of it to this point has now reached such a proportion that
2:57:05
people are seeing the results everywhere but they don't see is the the
2:57:12
sophistication of the Mind Control itself they don't recognize the symptoms that are being created in these people
2:57:18
until it's too late um Walter Boward a fellow friend
2:57:23
and researcher wrote a book in 1978 called operation mind control Walter did
2:57:31
perhaps one of the best bodies of research that has ever been provided but
2:57:36
unfortunately Walter allowed Dell publishing company to print his book and the CIA although they paid him quite
2:57:43
well for it uh bought all the copies of off the shelves and bought the right to
2:57:48
the book from Dell and took it off the market because this information was much
2:57:54
much much too powerful to be released into the private sector what's happened to him later on he was victim um Walter
2:58:00
uh himself had become a victim uh as a result of uh his research into this the
2:58:06
CIA had administered a very powerful drug to him and hurt Walter a great deal
2:58:11
but um Walter is since uh recovered and continues his research what was happened
2:58:17
to him you don't personally so you what kind of what kind of drugs they gave him they gave him a drug called IO gain IO
2:58:24
gain is an extract from a Vine that comes out of uh Brazil and um IAL gain
2:58:31
produces um characteristically a uh type of um delusional Behavior Uh consistent
2:58:39
with someone who is um clinically insane for all practical purposes um and they
2:58:46
will have good days and they bad days Walter had been affected for over 44
2:58:52
days but tell me he was he was he was married to the woman that that was uh
2:58:57
yes in the melon banking family that same melon banking family by the way is
2:59:03
one of the most powerful banking families in the entire world and um was originally put together um with the
2:59:10
rockefellas and um they've been implicated in practically every moneya laundering Scandal that this country's
2:59:17
ever known particularly involving uh George Bush and his drugs and the CIA so
2:59:23
the bank is closed right the way right oh no no it's one of the most prominent banks in the world and remains such
2:59:29
today and and uh and he was he was uh he he has to divorce this woman because the
2:59:35
bank was actually cover up for CIA is correct information he was divorced and
2:59:40
um any money that he had uh had as a result of that relationship was gone
2:59:45
they took it away from him left in penniless um there's um I got reports
2:59:54
from all over the world um Dr H Gruber uh himself uh a physician or H gri uh
3:00:04
gries rather um is indeed a victim of Mind Control um by a Cooperative effort
3:00:11
of the KGB and the CIA and he also has thrown another one into the mix called the Shabbat which is the um Iranian uh
3:00:21
um intelligence gathering group um Dr gr has been in touch with
3:00:28
Walter Boward and myself and and some of the other Avid researchers in this country for a number of years now he
3:00:36
himself is is in a a state of recovery um unfortunately in
3:00:42
Germany um this disorder is not even recognized as being real if you have it
3:00:49
they'll say that you have something else um they do not um allow anything to be
3:00:55
written on mind control they do not allow anything to be published on um a
3:01:00
government abuse of external control of the mind or behavioral modific they won't allow any kind of term associated
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with it um there's a u there's a tremendous amount of information available on what
3:01:15
has happened uh across the country and and around the world regarding mind
3:01:22
control but um I think the most um the most prominent thing that we've seen in
3:01:28
the last few years as a researcher I can say this even though I have been personally involved with Kathy O'Brien
3:01:35
her case as far as the physicians in this country and I'm a member of the
3:01:40
international um Society for the study of dissociation which is um a very
3:01:47
prestigious group group of Physicians worldwide who are attempting to build a model for uh practical uh recovery of
3:01:56
persons like Kathy O'Brien and uh uh at this point the American Psychiatric
3:02:02
association um is actually uh considering publication of a treatment
3:02:07
modality that I have co-developed from um my sources in the
3:02:13
CIA um the same treatment method and modality that I use
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uh to work with Kathy O'Brien successfully to bring her case to a conclusion and as you know for the past
3:02:26
5 and a half years she and I have been on a lecture circuit with Physicians and
3:02:31
law enforcement um and they've been gaining extra credit just for listening to her tell her
3:02:37
story so we are going tomorrow to see the Kelly yes I believe that Kelly one
3:02:43
will be rescued and will be able to do something with the help of course with the full knowledge and with the people
3:02:48
that are watching this video right now those people if they will do something
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whether it is to have our book published in their respective country or whether it is for um uh generating uh publicity
3:03:02
for this case that's all it's going to take vot in order for us to be able to
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successfully get this girl into a therapy that will help her thank you
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Mark for your extensive report thanks bu this is a mental institution and now
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with uh with Kathy and Mark we're going to
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visit her and take her for lunch and it's the first time that this girl was allowed to
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go all right see all the make make a sh around
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going to get her I this the place yeah it's small place it's huge it's
3:03:59
huge huge on the inside it looks small on the outside really that place is
3:04:08
enormous it doesn't look more than maybe 2500 s ft I Le 5,000 ft in that place so
3:04:16
can you tell us something about this PL camera the only thing I can tell you is
3:04:21
that it's called a group home and it's you see that van there that's a state vehicle mhm unless um unless you've got
3:04:30
unless you got permission from the court you can't go in
3:04:35
there it's a bummer all those doors are electric the windows are are uh that
3:04:41
material you can't break you know it's it's a fairly secure place
3:04:48
so nobody could go out from the pp well they do but you
3:04:58
know all right homicidal
3:05:04
suicid uh was Alex Spectre also the slaves yes yes all Spectre had his own
3:05:10
and that was who Kathy was used with they used her in commercial pornography
3:05:15
and that's uh now there's quite a bit of that commercial stuff out there still uh Larry Flint did that stuff and uh of
3:05:23
course that was one of the reasons that woman's still alive too because they would have
3:05:28
killed her because they were afraid that she might begin
3:05:34
remembering she made a comment to me when we found her she said nobody would believe what I can't
3:05:42
remember nobody would believe what I can't remember can we find her or she's bu oh I know where she is you K we speak
3:05:50
no she's no she's she's like Kelly she's crazy you she's old old she's get his
3:05:58
age yeah oh really yeah she's now in some institution too no no no she's still locked into the system but uh cuz
3:06:06
they're using her children they still using her children oh yeah oh yeah see
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that's why Kelly's here because they'd be using her see the courts fought Kathy for five years to take take her back
3:06:18
and they were going to give her to the biological father the seral killer or to Alex Houston or to Kathy's father or to
3:06:25
Kathy's sister they were trying to do this and that's what we kept fighting and we kept
3:06:30
beating them so um when Kelly tried to kill two people in her institution at
3:06:36
the last place that they couldn't turn her loose and she tried to take a brick to Cave This Woman's head in this woman
3:06:43
that worked there um she want to here I mean she she
3:06:49
where is the aners maybe you just take her take her from from inside of the of the car so she would see the car just
3:06:56
want to have on the camera once when she's is she coming from there or from here she'll be coming right down the front steps from there yeah
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[Music] okay I don't know if we'll be able to record uh Cy right K Kelly I would do it
3:07:16
let's see what's happening first and ask Kathy first okay cuz I'm Kelly is
3:07:23
clinically insane and cameras of course what was used against her MH so she's
3:07:29
terrified of them tell you something about these pornographic films they existing oh God yeah tons of them off
3:07:36
the Record we've got a lot of them mhm and that was one of the things that I turned over to the FBI and they threatened to lock me up on because they
3:07:43
said uh this kind of pornography is illegal you can't own it mm and I turned it over to a federal judge and the
3:07:49
federal judge said you come up with one more piece of evidence and we're going to lock you up for 20 years I said well uh there are other
3:07:57
people out there with evidence and they'll come forward when the time is right and truth of the matter is
3:08:02
protecting them particularly day damn people right yes truth of the matter is I've got tons of it but
3:08:10
uh and Larry Clint yeah it's Larry Quint some of it's Larry Quint stuff some of
3:08:16
it is u he did it was illegal for him to do that with the child with children oh yeah oh yeah in this country it's
3:08:24
uh it's 20 years to life for photographing children phog but he was
3:08:30
never cuz he was he was uh Ronald Reagan's best friend in the whole world
3:08:36
Ronald Reagan is a real sleo I mean he didn't like children but he's a real
3:08:41
sley bastard most people don't know this R Ronald rean is an actor and so they
3:08:46
thought he was a good guy oh he's terrible so if was Larry spin's uh
3:08:54
signature in the film or can somebody prove it was yeah oh some of them yeah
3:09:00
so instead of it nobody could do anything you can't do anything if you take the films and go to
3:09:05
some Movie Channel or something doesn't work no no no i' go to
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jail okay I was stating that uh that
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U uh there's a very good chance that when Kathy arrived uh to pick her daughter up she had no her daughter had
3:09:27
no memory even though they've been talking about this you the monster AR I was I was setting
3:09:33
the time oh I see I'm listening to it okay um uh the um the child will
3:09:41
probably have very little ability to even remember what uh she her mother had
3:09:47
talked about doing today um uh and I know Kathy told me she
3:09:53
said she said well Kelly ought to be ready to go and she'll have her hiking clothes on and I said kassy it'll be the
3:10:01
first time I said she will not remember most likely that you even going to be here
3:10:08
today right yeah and and it's just it's always this way course Cy always hopes
3:10:13
that the next time she sees her she'll remember oh I see it just doesn't happen
3:10:19
it can't happen so she was used this she from the day a be the program right yeah
3:10:25
absolutely from the moment she was born they were they were doing ambio syesis
3:10:31
or whatever they call it you know on Kathy uh at Nasa on on Kathy uh when
3:10:38
before when the child was still in her womb uh they were doing all the kind of probing around and sticking the needles
3:10:44
through the stomach and everything else I have no worthly idea what were doing um I can assure you though somebody
3:10:50
knows what was done on her she has a file yeah there's tons of files but I
3:10:56
don't have access to those files um I do have access I have access to
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you for
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going
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much okay F okay
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[Laughter]
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you guys around here no we have from around Europe really what part of you uh from Yugoslavia oh former ugia yeah
3:13:38
former Yugoslavia we have bad syrups really yeah
3:13:48
you guys are touring around United States uh he was born here but I I'm
3:14:03
touring hey guys how are you hello everybody
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[Music]
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hi guys hello
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guys say hi
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hello are you okay Kelly hi baby
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hi guys that one it won't work it's got
3:15:29
your leg wind your leg would have to go backwards let me see if I can over
3:15:34
here Kelly do you like this area here hey do what you're like you're happy
3:15:40
today it it doesn't work I love it
3:15:47
hello hello
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hello that's not funny Mark Dad I know what that one is that's
3:16:00
not I went off there I be doing some serious flapping that was I always said if I
3:16:07
fall off say I'm going flap my arms I'm going to Flap them like a damn honey be
3:16:12
huming bird is what I be slapping that's pretty
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mil hi how you doing okay very be participation our
3:16:33
programming I'm just a little I'm just relaxing a little bit here enjoying the view all
3:16:41
right in the air they up uh is that a tck dad or is it a bug it's just
3:16:57
AI all right girls you like our day today yeah
3:17:07
fun all right who's more tired the mother or the
3:17:14
daughter um should we take a vote
3:17:19
all right whose legs are wiggling the most what what book is you reading now Kelly Kelly what books you reading now
3:17:26
is there any books title particular title uh anything
3:17:33
magazine uh extraordinary science Discovery
3:17:38
magazines um I don't know what that's about what's your favorite television
3:17:44
station that you like the most oh Discovery Channel far definitely that and Comedy Central
3:17:50
oh really what Comedy Central because they exposed Bill
3:17:57
Clinton quite thoroughly as if the rest of the world hasn't already done so yeah
3:18:03
really you don't like bed Clon pardon you don't like bed
3:18:08
Clon not really he's kind of dumb Hill Bill kind of goes good
3:18:15
together how about the Healer uh too
3:18:22
manipulative right anybody that works for the United States of America I can't
3:18:28
really tell I don't like most of them that much for the new for the new us I can
3:18:35
understand it you believe with new us some someday I
3:18:41
new it's changing rapidly
3:18:47
I Sur should we do feet for him
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what that's right foot for Thought
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really do you like to go to Italy pardon would you like to go to Italy with us
3:19:07
yeah very much so so we can make a study and do all these tours P Florence Rome
3:19:15
oh I would love to Venice is the most beautiful na Napoli
3:19:20
is beautiful Naples the most beautiful place in the world what kind of I would love to
3:19:25
go what changes what changes are you looking for most in the in in this
3:19:31
country and in your situation uh to stop the manipulation of
3:19:36
lesser people girls and which way you leave Which Way manipulation talking
3:19:43
about do what which manipulations you're talking about
3:19:48
anything um anything from mind control to
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uh God Jus yeah Justice is definitely um
3:20:00
the control the state has over uh the whereabouts of children and the ab abuse abuse abuse
3:20:08
that gets placed on them while they're in custody yeah separation of family I always say the separation of families is
3:20:15
how effective separation from your bother how I AFF your wife probably drawing us closer together if anything
3:20:21
the exact opposite of what everybody else wanted to happen M that's true do you remember anything from your you know
3:20:28
past life and abuse can you remember man I still have a
3:20:34
block oh there's um
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how is this feeling and remembering of that situation how is affecting your
3:20:53
life I'm your friend if you want to yeah that actually Mak
3:20:59
sense I'm just about to uhhuh yeah I'm just about to reveal in all World your
3:21:05
story why no no no no no no sorry you understood wrong but on the fact to to
3:21:11
punish the people who did who did uh what they've done to you to your life and to your motion to your this is my
3:21:18
goal in life my father was in concentration camp by the
3:21:24
Nazi and he went that's why I'm against every violation in everything in
3:21:29
life I I deeply you know I think about you every
3:21:37
day so you do believe one day you'll be able to remember everything Kelly yeah
3:21:48
one day what's your favorite actor my favorite actor yeah H what do you think
3:21:56
of actors they're people just the same they just have a
3:22:01
talent for entertaining other people do you have anybody that you
3:22:06
particularly like or um uh Brad Pit because he's
3:22:14
attractive and um the the movie that he's coming out with uh what was it called I don't know he's coming out with
3:22:21
some movie that speaks out against um it's it's entitled sleepers that's what it was sleepers and it's it's about like
3:22:29
people being abused under hypnosis and also I probably like Adrian Paul just
3:22:34
because there's more to him that meets the eye off of his television series and
3:22:40
Steven Seagal needless to say he's a brilliant man and he's proven that through his messages in every movie he's
3:22:47
ever made except for that one CH yeah you like proven through those
3:22:54
movies he's proven that the government's us all over pardon my
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French Which Way many ways
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right at least it exposes in all ways they're literally what do you think of the news
3:23:15
think about it um a lot a lot isn't being said on
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some some things it is what would you like to see more of on the
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news everything being told tired of the hiding the covering up
3:23:34
power is in Secrets without the secrets there's no power Secrets out mhm so you believe one
3:23:42
day all the secrets will come out oh definitely definitely half well we're more than halfway there
3:23:50
halfway was admitting finally that something's up period yeah and uh uh Kelly how how you
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you believe that you would like to leave you the mother again and with the mark happily
3:24:07
hopefully sometime in the near future like maybe this year we'll all be living together in a log cabin in somewhere in
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Alaska oh you like Alaska love it oh that's a place for
3:24:19
your it's wonderful perfect temperature perfect scenery just
3:24:28
perfect do do you remember anything of your childhood or is it's really like barrier in your
3:24:34
mind well I think the best things I remember is the horses some of the good walks I
3:24:43
took with my mom and the time when we were going on motor daily motorcycle
3:24:49
rides with Dad in Alaska no um in K Springs
3:24:55
Tennessee oh was about six seven how about Alex H do you like no do
3:25:03
you remember him do you remember Alex Hast actually I don't
3:25:12
know is Alex Houston uh in your memory or um not really I don't I block out like a
3:25:20
photographic picture of them but I mean I know who he is if I see him I know him when's the last time
3:25:27
you met him you saw him remember God n years
3:25:33
ago just about about 88 so about eight years ago how about
3:25:41
unfortunately I got the privilege of seeing him about what 4
3:25:47
years ago last time I think at Cumberland house and I was physically restrained and forced to see him and my
3:25:54
head pushed against the floor because I refused to talk to him that was a pleasant
3:26:00
memory so what was the purpose of he's vising you just to
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to I don't know I don't care I just don't want to have anything to do
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with when was the last time I saw him
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result the last time I saw him was drastic emotionally traumatized me
3:26:23
I'll tell you that and it gave me a pretty good headache you're a gorgeous
3:26:30
girl and I believe that you have a great career in front of you and you're the great writer I'm
3:26:37
definitely positive you you're really a most brilliant girl I've met in absolute last 10
3:26:42
years most brilliant intelligent and beautiful and the bad thing is is I can't even exercise my
3:26:48
brain why well the place I'm at now I mean everybody there is dumb I mean
3:26:55
they're not ignorant because at least if you're ignorant you can be taught just
3:27:01
terrible um they think a big a big word would be something like deluxe or
3:27:11
caviar so you you you you don't happy in the place you are now no definit not um
3:27:17
I enjoy it sometimes but more often I don't than I
3:27:25
do so if I wasn't there I wouldn't have got to meet a lot of great people so you're right like prefer to be
3:27:32
in some U college go to study what is your favorite uh subject that you'd like
3:27:37
to study uh uh like some science like oh science
3:27:45
definitely um science and literature any of those I'm good at math
3:27:51
but um it's not something I would actually study per se oh I might take
3:27:58
that back cuz that ties in a lot to science the two kind of go hand in
3:28:03
hand do you like to be a writer um
3:28:09
journalist not really I would I like it for a Pastime but I think overall
3:28:16
Veterinary is calling me that's my calling what is now your
3:28:22
your education is looking like how you can describe your education system in the in the place you're now um okay I'm
3:28:28
supposed to be either in I think it would be geometry or in Algebra 2
3:28:34
instead I'm doing pre-algebra I'm supposed to be in English to but I'm
3:28:39
doing 7eventh grade English um like spelling um uh it's just ridiculous you
3:28:48
have a Shakespeare in English how somebody could thought you spelling and all this stuff you said because other
3:28:53
people are like these other girl people that there how many people are there in this room in this PL there um in the
3:28:59
house that I'm living in there's seven other girls besides myself the only girls huh only girls there seven oh I
3:29:07
see um uh all in all in the whole program uh I don't know
3:29:13
uncountable I'm about couple 100 maybe about 100 somewhere
3:29:21
there oh wonderful so where do you have your studying I going to school I'm
3:29:28
sorry I must be very I'm I'm sorry where do you have
3:29:34
your your uh
3:29:40
teaching am I am I am I did I say something wrong pardon did I say something wrong
3:29:47
I'm your friend am I yeah definitely I like you very much you're my friend for
3:29:52
life definitely and I would like to go with you and your father and mother to Europe and really enjoy in some
3:29:58
beautiful sounds like a real good idea oh yes definitely would love to do yes right now though is this on oh you it's
3:30:05
on C have someplace else I need to go very badly I do too it's called a
3:30:12
facility okay you got three people that are going to stay is it John my best
3:30:18
friend at this moment that are French girl named
3:30:23
toet other that are are redwood tree right about we really appreciate you V
3:30:29
okay so have have to top the camera
3:30:57
uh Mark you very very uh particular place there yes what it means it's your
3:31:04
program yeah it's our uh it's uh has something to do with the book as you well know I see okay I stay
3:31:12
with Mark and Cy and Kelly um I met Kelly today for the the first time and I really appreciate my two days uh trip to
3:31:20
Marx and Kelly K's home uh now I met a caddy and uh she had uh enormous uh if I
3:31:28
will not know her condition she's a very bright girl I mean you know her vocabulary and her everything is
3:31:36
absolutely superb and then her I will say that her IQ is is above average at
3:31:42
least 50% I could see because she's 16 uh what is her condition now and how you
3:31:50
describe that from your scientific point of view Kelly's uh condition has been diagnosed by a number of Physicians and
3:31:57
I I to have tested her but she's been tested in a number of Institutions uh professionally by
3:32:04
psychiatrist and psychologist and she suffers from what is known as associative identity
3:32:10
disorder or did it used to be known as multiple personality disorder order now
3:32:16
it is known as dissociative identity disorder this disorder is created as a
3:32:22
result of severe repeated trauma um and
3:32:27
particularly before age five Kelly's trauma base was of course uh sexual uh
3:32:34
trauma psychological trauma and physical trauma and tortures uh continually all
3:32:41
through her childhood know as as suffering from dissociative identity the
3:32:46
disorder um part of the symptoms of this disorder are her inability to
3:32:53
remember uh from moment to moment and in order for her to to appear normal she
3:33:01
mirrors anyone that she is in contact with so they feel very comfortable with
3:33:07
her so I said to her for example I like disc Discovery Channel yes he said right
3:33:12
and then she said yes I I it's the only thing I'm watching yes exactly you see there was there was some some particular
3:33:17
moment of time now I'm recalling that but you call mirror it's called mirroring I she will mirror your actions
3:33:25
the way you hold your hands the way you the way you talk um eventually she'll
3:33:30
even begin to pick up your accent um the U the the disorder itself
3:33:37
is most unfortunate most uncomfortable to the person that suffers from it but the worst part is it develops into
3:33:45
suicidal and homicidal Behavior they become uh these people that suffer from
3:33:50
did in many instances but not all uh become very agitated very easily for
3:33:57
things that we don't even know uh that could agitate them a a word or a place
3:34:04
or a suggestion or a thing can can set them off and they become extremely
3:34:10
violent either towards themselves or towards others uh Kelly's situation is
3:34:16
not without this horrific terrible um uh symptom uh she suffered it many many
3:34:23
times and that's the reason that she has uh been maintained in a mental institution for most of her
3:34:30
life um she has spent uh from age eight she is now 16 she has lived in a mental
3:34:38
institution um or in an INT institutionalized setting um what was her life before she
3:34:47
was NASA NASA Institute the National Aeronautics and Space Administration I
3:34:53
hold directly responsible for her condition because it was they that was
3:34:58
developing the programs um under some Nazi scientists that were brought to this country under project paper clip
3:35:05
for uh uh for the purposes of researching and developing
3:35:11
multigenerational incest abused St yes um the the the actual purposes uh
3:35:20
that NASA had for this child I have no idea um there is no basis for my
3:35:26
understanding of what they were going to do with her uh there are many people that
3:35:31
have suggested maybe they're going to use her as an assassin others have suggested that this was a normal thing
3:35:39
as a result of the trauma I can tell you that in many instances these children
3:35:45
develop this antisocial behavior and becoming um what you and I would term uh
3:35:52
suicidal or homicidal in other words they either want to inflict harm upon themselves or harm upon others for no
3:36:00
apparent reason um uh this um this type of psychotic condition um will not just
3:36:08
go away with age the child must be uh
3:36:13
deprogrammed the work uh that would be required of her um would take possibly
3:36:20
years of recovery and therapy um and a
3:36:26
great deal of money that's the reason that we've gone public with our book that's the reason that we are in the
3:36:31
process of making a documentary film as well as a motion picture um is to
3:36:36
recover enough money to help this child through her recovery period now for 8
3:36:43
lat przebywała w szpitalu psychiatrycznym, otrzymując to, co my moglibyśmy nazwać terapią, ale to nie jest
3:36:52
skuteczna terapia nie tylko dlatego, że jej bycie ofiarą było tak różne od tamtego
3:36:57
jej matki, ponieważ jej matka nie była maltretowana przez NASA, kiedy się urodziła
3:37:02
matka nie była maltretowana, poza ojcem i jego współpracownikami
3:37:08
a jej matka była oczywiście wykorzystywana seksualnie, psychicznie i fizycznie, ale nie była poddawana tak drastycznym torturom
3:37:14
tortury technologiczne, których Kelly doświadczyła od momentu narodzin aż do teraz
3:37:20
aż do czasu, gdy uratowałem ją i jej matkę, gdy miała osiem lat, co to jest?
3:37:25
Twoja opinia teraz nie musi być brana pod uwagę, ponieważ Stany Zjednoczone mają bardzo drażliwe pytania
3:37:32
jeden z największych aktów terrorystycznych w historii, wszystko było absolutnie fascynujące
3:37:38
lub w negatywny sposób, tak jak ja, byłem tu w sprawie Oklahomy, jest tam wiele
3:37:44
Opinie Rozmawiam z Tedem Garonem, jednym z gwiazd FBI, osobą, która naprawdę ma najlepszą karierę w FBI.
3:37:51
cytat: Były dwie eksplozje, Timothy McGay pytał: czy wierzysz, eee, czy w to?
3:37:58
Timothy MC był pod wpływem kontroli umysłu, eee, nie mam na to dowodów w sercu
3:38:03
wspieraj moją, moją, moją własną teorię. Rozmawiałem z Tedem Gundersonem na wiele tematów
3:38:08
Przy różnych okazjach rozmawiałem z wieloma innymi naprawdę wykwalifikowanymi ekspertami, którzy
3:38:14
oceniłam, jakie skąpe dowody są dostępne i mogę powiedzieć, że
3:38:19
że na podstawie tego, co usłyszałem, mogę jedynie uwierzyć, że pan McVey
3:38:27
jest ofiarą kontroli umysłu, ale pan McVey oczywiście przyznał się przed kamerą, eee
 
 

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