PM 190922- Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy

Bardzo dobry zestaw informacji dotyczący 9/11 WTC.
Jak bardzo mentalność sprawców zamachu i zacierających po nich ślady jest podobna do mentalności sprawców zamachu warszawskiego – tj. rzekomej katastrofy smoleńskiej 10 kwietnia 2010 roku w Smoleńsku, gdzie TU-154 rozbił się przy lądowaniu, zabijając prezydenta Lecha Kaczyńskiego oraz pozostałe osoby, członków delegacji do Katynia.
A nie tylko katastrofa smoleńska tu się objawia. Także kłamstwa nt. „kolektora” oczyszczalni ścieków, te machlojki i jawne oszustwa, tak jakby miały swoje podobne mentalne pochodzenie.
Oczyszczalnia Czajka to ewidentny terroryzm, a jest to sprawa rozwojowa. To w zakresie dalszych machlojek żyda Trzaskowskiego, jak i jest to zapowiedź dalszych akcji terrorystycznych w Polsce.
Ruch bezwizowy do USA jest już gotowy i możliwe, że żydzi dokonają jakiejś gigantycznej katastrofy ekologicznej, która spowoduje masowe wyjazdy Polaków z Polski.

Red. Gazeta Warszawska

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Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy

This material is from my webpage on 911, which I have just updated

(thanks to Israel Shamir): http://mailstar.net/wtc.html

(1) Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy

(2) Update to Wayne Madsen report on Mossad infiltration of 9/11 Arab

hijacker cells

(3) Stolen Identities: 9/11 hijackers cf Dubai assassination

(4) Mossad did 911 - Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US

Army War College

(5) Sabrosky: 19 named Arabs on 4 planes "at best incomplete, and at

worst a complete fabrication"

(6) Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" were alive and well after 911 -

they were victims of identity theft

(7) Stolen Identities: Saudi Prince says seven alleged Hijackers are

ALIVE (Sept 23 '01)

(8) Stolen Identities: UK Telegraph interviews four 9/11 Hijackers,

ALIVE (Sept 23, '01)

(9) Mossad uses stolen identities of living people, for Assassinations

(Australia, New Zealand)

(10) Mohamed Atta's father says he's still alive, blames Mossad for 9/11

(11) Atta's girlfriend: he loved pork chops, was already a licensed

pilot, could speak Hebrew, had been in "some kind of militia"

(12) Hijackers' last letter, found in baggage, shows ignorance of Islam

- Robert Fisk

(13) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -1

(14) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -2

(15) 911 No Planes Debate - reply to David West

 

(1) Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy

 

Re: 911 Mossad ran Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen

From: "israel shamir This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it."

 

I am not against fantasy; I am not against insinuation either, as long

as we ourselves understand it is b.s. The item called 911 Mossad ran

Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen - is a clear case of b.s.

Somebody forwarded a pure fantasy of Madsen to Stratfor; this forward

ended in Wikileaks collection. In no way it makes the story real or

reliable or trustworthy. A forwarded fantasy is still fantasy. It is an

attempt to enhance credibility by using the Wikileaks name. Guardian and

NYTimes also did it. You, Peter, should read it carefully. Otherwise

people will post it as "Peter Myers proves Mossad ran 911 cell" )))

 

(2) Update to Wayne Madsen report on Mossad infiltration of 9/11 Arab

hijacker cells

 

 > From: Eric Walberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

 > is this reliable news? finally the smoking gun?

 

Wayne Madsen's original report "Mossad ran 9/11 Arab hijacker cells"

(January 24, 2011) is at:

http://redwolfwarrior.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/atta-and-his-teams-controlled-by-mossad-teams-trained-in-negev/

 

On the same day, January 25, 2011 he issued an UPDATE, stating that he

had been informed that Atta too was an Israeli agent:

http://redwolfwarrior.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/was-atta-an-agent-for-the-israelis-reliable-sources-believe-he-was/

 

It's also at http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20110125_3

 

Was Atta an agent for the Israelis? Reliable sources believe he was

 

Adding up the facts = nyet to 9/11 report conclusions.

 

January 25, 2011 —

 

Was Atta an agent for the Israelis? Reliable sources believe he was

 

Following yesterday’s WMR special report on the 9/11 "hijacking" cells

being run by the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency, we have been

contacted by reliable sources who have evidence that "lead hijacker"

Mohamed Atta and his cohort, Ziad Jarreh, may have been Mossad agents or

double agents. There is also no actual proof that any of the "hijacking"

teams ever made it aboard any of the four flights on 9/11. Autopsies of

bodies discovered at the Pentagon yielded no Arab identities and there

were no Arab names on any of the flight manifests.

 

In September 2009, WMR reported: "Last year, two Lebanese brothers — Ali

Jarreh and Youssef Jarreh — were arrested by Lebanese authorities who

linked the pair to an espionage cell responsible for the car bombing

assassination of Hezbollah military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus

in February 2008. The Jarrah’s were found by the Lebanese Army in

possession of ‘communication devices and other sophisticated equipment.’

The Jarrahs arrested by the Lebanese had been recruited by the Mossad in

the 1980s when Israel occupied a large section of Lebanon. And for a

Paul Harvey-like "rest of the story," they are related to Ziad Jarreh,

the man who was said to have been a close associate and fellow hijacking

planner of Mohamed Atta and whose American visa was found with photo and

visa number largely intact in a field in Pennsylvania on 9/11."

 

WMR has also been informed by a Joint Terrorism Task Force source

stationed in New York in 2001 that Atta lived in Fort Lee, New Jersey in

August 2001 and was protected by Israeli "art students" who lived close

to Atta in Fort Lee. The art students, identified as Mossad agents by

the FBI and CIA, lived in Fort Lee from June to September 2001.

 

Atta maintained high-level contacts in Saudi intelligence and Pakistan’s

Inter Service Intelligence (ISI), giving the Mossad plausible

deniability of any relationship with Atta. FBI teams were denied access

to the passenger manifest of the El Al plane that exfiltrated scores of

Mossad agents from New York’s JFK airport to Tel Aviv in the afternoon

of 9/11. There is reason by some FBI agents to believe that "Mohamed

Atta" was among the passengers on the El Al escape flight.

 

(3) Stolen Identities: 9/11 hijackers cf Dubai assassination

- Peter Myers, March 21, 2010

 The recent Dubai assasination in which Mossad used stolen identities

warrants re-examination of evidence that the identities of at least some

of the alleged 9/11 hijackers had been stolen.

 In item 11, the UK Telegraph interviews four 9/11 Hijackers, ALIVE.

 And in item 10, a Saudi Prince says that at least 7 of the alleged

hijckers are alive. This original Reuters News Wire report was hard to

track down. Please save the Archive webpage to hard disk, and make

backup copies.

 The Telegraph assumes that their identities were stolen by Bin Laden.

The prospect that Mossad might have done it is not considered. Yet, New

Zealand later broke off diplomatic relations with Israel over Mossad

using its passports. And the Dubai assassination shows Mossad's track

record.

 Of the four ALIVE hijackers the Telegraph interviewed, one, Saeed

Al-Ghamdi, is a Saudi Airlines pilot - ALIVE. He was named as a

terrorist on the United Airlines flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.

The FBI published his personal details but with a photograph of somebody

else - possibly someone who impersonated him at a Florida flight school.

 Another, Abdulaziz Al-Omari, is an engineer from Riyadh - ALIVE. Mr

Al-Omari was listed as one of the hijackers of the American Airlines

plane that crashed into the the WTC north tower. He said, "I have no

idea how to fly a plane."

 And another, Salem Al-Hamzi, said, "I have never been to the United States".

 If these "hijackers" are alive, who attended the Florida flying schools,

impersonating them?

 Item 4 reports that TV stations are increasingly ready to run

documentaries arguing/showing that 9/11 was an Inside Job. About 20 such

cases are described here, yet NOT ONE mentions Mossad. This does not

imply that these documentaries are worthless. It is better to get the

public wondering about US government first, then progressing onto the

even more taboo topic second. But information about the latter is NEVER

presented on public TV stations.

 It is hard to believe that Bush & Cheney were not complicit in some way.

But that does not mean that they were the brains behind the plot. The

point to remember is: Mossad knows what THEY are up to, but they don't

know what Mossad's doing.

 US intelligence agencies are not monolithic. Elements of the CIA, NSA,

FBI and Police seem to have provided information on Mossad involvement

in 9/11 to the makers of the documentary 9/11 Missing Links (item 4).

 On the other hand, Mossad would have some Sayanin in those bodies, apart

from those who been duped. So the intelligence agencies are themselves

split.

 If "Inside Job" documentaries reach a wider audience, the Pentagon and

the Intelligence Agencies might find that THEY are assumed to be the

Plotters. Mossad - if guilty as I believe - would do all it could to

keep the spotlight on them, not it. In self-defence, those agencies

might spill the beans and tell all they know.

 

(4) Mossad did 911 - Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US

Army War College

 

Betrayal and Deceit: The Road to 9/11 and Beyond

 

  1. Sep, 2009

 

By: Alan Sabrosky*

 http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_911zion_03.htm

 [...] A significant development in the 1990s was the formation of the

neo-conservative think tank known as PNAC (Project for a New American

Century), whose members prepared position papers for the Israeli

government and for a future US Administration sharing their views. That

happened in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush, and a contemporary

writer summarized the tip of the neo-conservative iceberg in his first

Administration this way:

 The "outsiders" from PNAC were now powerful "insiders," placed in

important positions from which they could exert maximum pressure on U.S.

policy [...]

 Far more significant in terms of subsequent events was the

acknowledgement in one of PNAC's own documents that their program for

America (and Israel) would not readily be accepted by the American

people. What this meant, PNAC opined in 2000, was that "the process of

transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be

a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new

Pearl Harbor." ...

 

On September 11, 2001, the PNAC people in and out of government - and by

extension AIPAC and Israel - "coincidentally" got the event they needed,

barely eight months after coming into office. [...]

 

Even more unbelievable is the "coincidental" salvage of an intact

passport presumably belonging to one of the hijackers inside the plane

that hit WTC2 - and this was how the official 9/11 Commission report

described it:

 

The passport was recovered by NYPD Detective Yuk H. Chin from a male

passerby in a business suit, about 30 years old. The passerby left

before being identified, while debris was falling from WTC 2. The tower

collapsed shortly afterwards. The detective then gave the passport to

the FBI on 9/11.

 

Reflections

 

Several things are very clear to me from a careful assessment of both

official and critical evaluations of the 9/11 attacks. First, the

striking aircraft alone simply could not have brought down either of the

two buildings in the manner in which they fell, much less a third

building which was not hit by a plane (I expect the one intended to do

that as a "cover" had ended up in that Pennsylvania field), given the

available physical evidence and a wealth of expert testimony. This means

the attackers had assistance on the ground, and it had to have been

active before the attacks occurred: preparing buildings for controlled

demolition is not something done haphazardly in the midst of chaos.

 

Second, only two intelligence agencies had the expertise, assets, access

and political protection to execute 9/11 in the air and on the ground:

our CIA and Israel's Mossad. Only one had the incentive, using the "who

benefits" principle: Mossad. And that incentive dovetailed perfectly

with the neo-con's agenda and explicitly expressed need for a catalytic

event to mobilize the American public for their wars, using American

military power to destroy Israel's enemies. [...]

 

Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM)

have paid more attention to Sarah Palin's wardrobe than they have to

dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the

US Government's treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath. And the reason is

that on this issue, all are on the same side, and the official line is

the one they all prefer - "all" meaning the PNAC alumni who took over

the Bush Administration's national security apparatus and their

counterparts in the Obama administration, AIPAC and the rest of the

numerous Jewish PACs, the MSM owners and Israel. The depiction of the

media management in America in 2002 is especially informative, and has

not changed significantly since then:

 

CEOs and Directors of companies change as often as Boards of Directors

vote. But if we could "freeze frame" the CEOs of the largest US Media

companies in mid 2002, we would find that ten Jewish American men ran

the vast majority of US television networks and other media companies

including movies, radio, and publishing at that time. Not much has

changed today.

 

{see the graphic detailing Jewish media ownership at

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/911zion03_02.jpg }

 

(5) Sabrosky: 19 named Arabs on 4 planes "at best incomplete, and at

worst a complete fabrication"

 

Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake, by Dr. Alan Sabrosky

 

https://dissidentvoice.org/2011/06/demystifying-911-israel-and-the-tactics-of-mistake/

 

Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake

 

by Dr. Alan Sabrosky

 

Tuesday, June 28th, 2011

 

[...] I am also absolutely certain as a strategic analyst that 9/11

itself, from which all else flows, was a classic Mossad-orchestrated

operation. But Mossad did not do it alone. They needed local help within

America (and perhaps elsewhere) and they had it, principally from some

alumni of PNAC (the misnamed Project for a New American Century) and

their affiliates within and outside of the US Government (USG), who in

the 9/11 attacks got the "catalytic event" they needed and craved to

take the US to war on Israel's behalf, only eight months after coming

into office. [...]

 

Second only to the actual controlled demolition of WTC-7, and

supplementing the thesis that with or without impacting aircraft the

buildings were brought down by other means, is extensive extensive

audio-visual evidence on 9/11 while the Twin Towers were still standing

from what became "Ground Zero." This evidence includes real-time clips

of secondary explosions at ground level in both WTC-1 and WTC-2 (you can

hear the detonations and see smoke and debris billowing out), reports on

many networks of those explosions and of strange vans inside and around

those buildings prior to the secondary explosions, reports from EMTs

(Emergency Medical Technicians) of the same thing and of people inside

and around the lobbies of those buildings who were not emergency

personal and were not fleeing the disaster – all of this on 9/11 and

widely reported as it happened that same day. And a third element,

building on the above and adding its own dimension, is the presence of a

number of (mostly white) vans owned – as far as can be determined, given

the extent to which information on them and the people with them has

disappeared from the public record – by an Israeli company (or rather a

company owned by an Israeli, to be precise) in New Jersey. Some of these

vans were regularly around the World Trade Center itself. But two stand

out, and need to be examined in some detail for their significance to be

appreciated.

 

First, Bergen, NJ residents saw five people on a white van filming the

attacks and visibly celebrating. They had set up their cameras before

the first plane hit. Police arrested them. All were Israelis (now

referred to as the "dancing Israelis"). Bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if

they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find

anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing. All five were

later released at the instigation of Israeli & American Jewish leaders,

some in the US Government. Details are still classified. This incident

quickly disappeared from the mainstream media, following a brief mention

in the New York Times three days after the attacks, that was not

followed up.

 

A second van was stopped on the approaches to the George Washington

Bridge. As CBS's Dan Rather said in his live report: "Two suspects are

in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives were discovered around

the George Washington Bridge. That bridge links New York to New Jersey

over the Hudson River. Whether the discovery of those explosives had

anything to do with other events today is unclear, but the FBI, has two

suspects in hand, said the truckload of explosives, enough explosives

were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge."

Those suspects – also Israelis - and the incident then seem to have

disappeared from the public record and mainstream media "examinations"

<sic.> of 9/11, just like discussions of the first van, the secondary

explosions at ground level within WTC-1 and WTC-2, and the precipitous

collapse into its own footprint of WTC-7.

 

The combined impact of these and many other factors is both chilling and

compelling. Think of it: Secondary explosions at ground level where

there should be no secondary explosions. The catastrophic collapse of

the 47-story WTC-7 into its own footprint in seconds, without any

significant external trauma, where by rights there should have been no

collapse. Vans with targeting maps, explosives or traces thereof,

cameras pre-positioned to film the World Trade Center, and especially

Israelis with those vans where there should have been no Israelis

present with any of those things in those places at that time.

 

Any of these matters ought to have been sufficient to stimulate a

searching re-examination of the official USG interpretation of 9/11, and

especially of the actual or putative role of Al-Qaeda in it. The vans

alone pointed away from Al-Qaeda, unless one assumed that Al-Qaeda was

an Israeli front, or that Mossad at a minimum had run a parallel and

more murderous operation to whatever Al-Qaeda may have done. What is

fascinating is how little impact it has had on public awareness of the

details of 9/11, much less official US policy based on it. A "cloak of

silence" had descended over any official or mainstream media discussions

of 9/11 that did not conform to the official interpretation, thereby

keeping such dissonance from the general public.

 

The Cloak of Silence Over 9/11

 

There have been three elements to the "cloak of silence" covering

efforts to expose the failings of the official US position on 9/11 to

the public. One is within the Executive Branch. Another is within the

Congress. And the third is the mainstream media (MSM).

 

The first is not at all surprising, as so many of its key members (and

especially its so-called "neo-conservatives") were the authors of the

"19 named Arabs in 4 planes" thesis, and its de facto apologists on the

professional staff of the 9/11 Commission. Indeed, many of them had a

vested personal and professional interest in maintaining the validity of

the official position.

 

[...] Israel ... is the one state with a positive incentive, if it

believed it could get away with it, which is to enrage the American

public against Muslims generally and Arabs in particular, and to make

the US an active belligerent in the region – spending American lives and

treasure in the service of Israel's interests.

 

Expertise is different and more diffuse. There are many intelligence and

special operations forces in the world with the expertise to wire large

urban structures for a controlled demolition. There are many combat

engineer units in many countries that could do the same thing. And there

are many private firms that specialize in them as well. Yet neither

Al-Qaeda as an organization, nor any of its known affiliates – much less

the 19 named Arabs supposedly on those four planes – possessed that

expertise, or anything even remotely close to it; had they done so, the

Green Zone in Baghdad would have been a pile of rubble.

 

But it is local support that is the crucial determinant. All

well-crafted covert operations require some measure of local support,

official or unofficial, unless the target area is so irredeemably

hostile that none is available. Any domestic or foreign intelligence

agency targeting the WTC would absolutely have required it, and Mossad

would be better placed than any other to access such support for entry,

access, execution and escape.

 

This is especially true, given the security company overseeing the WTC.

CIA and/or Defense Department personnel (which is not the same as the

CIA or the Defense Department as organizations) could have had access,

but only if that had Israeli endorsement – one does not casually cut

open walls, implant explosives, run cables and wire everything together

in buildings with state-of-the-art electronic surveillance and 24/7

on-site security. Mossad would have no such need for those niceties,

given the ownership of the WTC and the management of the company

overseeing its security. Remember that we are not talking about large

numbers of people in any case: given time to prepare the three buildings

and protection from detection, as few as a dozen could have sufficed, a

number small enough to be effectively unnoticed in a large organization.

 

Retrospect and Prospect

 

So let us recapitulate the basic conclusions of this analysis. First,

the core official US Government position on 9/11 is that any and all

aspects of it are directly attributable to 19 named Arabs on 4 planes,

conducting a terrorist operation planned and executed by Osama bin

Laden's Al-Qaeda. This position is at best incomplete, and at worst a

complete fabrication engineered by those directly or indirectly

responsible for what happened on 9/11, and the wars afterward.

 

[...] Al-Qaeda – and perhaps other groups as well – had the theoretical

capability to carry out a simultaneous four-plane hijacking, perhaps

flying the aircraft to Cuba (the four 9/11 aircraft should have been

able to make a one-way flight there at the beginning of their

operational day without difficulty, depending on their actual loads),

which would have been spectacular in itself. But neither Al-Qaeda nor

any of their affiliates had the expertise and local support necessary to

allow them the needed access to any of the buildings at the World Trade

Center, to cut open the walls and wire them for controlled demolition,

and then to escape and evade afterward.

 

[...] Given the pervasiveness of Zionist influence in the US government

and its intelligence and security agencies (including of course the

Defense Department), two broad scenarios are possible. One is that the

neo-cons and their cohorts were in the driver's seat with Israel in the

passenger seat with a map and the baggage. The second sees Israel

driving with the neo-cons and others handling the map and baggage. But

they were both in the same car on the road to and from 9/11. Both were

embedded in aspects of the planning and execution of the catastrophe,

the wars it spawned and the wars its architects now want us to wage in

Israel's name, linking treason and treachery in tandem no matter where

the emphasis is placed.

 

(6) Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" were alive and well after 911 -

they were victims of identity theft

 

911 Hijackers' Stolen Identities

 

STRANGER THAN FICTION AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9-11 AND THE WAR

ON TERRORISM

 

http://www.apfn.org/apfN/WTC_STF.htm

 

by Anonymous ...

 

Hours after the 9-11 attacks, authorities began to find clues

conveniently left for them to stumble upon. The Boston Globe reported

that a copy of the Koran, instructions on how to fly a commercial

airplane and a fuel consumption calculator were found in a pair of bags

meant for one of the hijacked flights that left from Logan. 64

 

Authorities also received a "tip" about a suspicious white car left

behind at Boston's Logan Airport. An Arabic-language flight training

manual was found inside the car. 65

 

How fortunate for investigators that the hijackers "forgot" to take

their Koran and Arab flight manuals with them! Within a few days, all

"19 hijackers" were "identified" and their faces were plastered all over

our television screens.

 

Then, like a script from a corny "B" spy movie, the official story gets

even more ridiculous. The passport of the supposed "ringleader" Mohammed

Atta, somehow managed to survive the explosion, inferno, and smoldering

collapse to be oh-so-conveniently "found" just a few blocks away from

the World Trade Center! 66

 

It is obvious that this "evidence" was planted by individuals wishing to

direct the blame towards Osama Bin Laden. How is it possible that Arab

students who had never flown an airplane could take a simulator course

and then fly jumbo jets with the skill and precision of "top-gun"

pilots? It is not possible and the fact is, the true identities of the

9-11 hijackers remains a mystery. In the days following the disclosure

of the "hijackers" names and faces, no less than 7 of the Arab

individuals named came forward to protest their obvious innocence. 67

 

That's right! Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" are alive and well. They

were victims of identity theft, some of whom had had their passports

stolen. They were interviewed by several news organizations including

the Telegraph of England. [...]

 

What kind of a corrupt character is FBI boss Mueller? He initially

admitted that false identities were involved with 9-11, but then he

allows the media to keep naming these innocent, and alive, Arabs as the

hijackers? Why doesn't he correct them? More on the slimy Mr. Mueller

later on!

 

Now I'm really going to rock your faith in the false religion of 9-11.

In February of 2000, Indian intelligence officials detained 11 members

of what they thought was an Al Qaeda hijacking conspiracy. It was then

discovered that these 11 "Muslim preachers" were all Israeli nationals!

India's leading weekly magazine, The Week, reported:

 

On January 12 Indian intelligence officials in Calcutta detained 11

foreign nationals for interrogation before they were to board a

Dhaka-bound Bangladesh Biman flight. They were detained on the suspicion

of being hijackers. "But we realized that they were tabliqis (Islamic

preachers), so we let them go", said an Intelligence official.

 

The eleven had Israeli passports but were believed to be Afghan

nationals who had spent a while in Iran. Indian intelligence officials,

too, were surprised by the nationality profile of the eleven. "They say

that they have been on tabligh (preaching Islam) in India for two

months. But they are Israeli nationals from the West Bank," said a

Central Intelligence official. He claimed that Tel Aviv "exerted

considerable pressure" on Delhi to secure their release. "It appeared

that they could be working for a sensitive organization in Israel and

were on a mission to Bangladesh," the official said. 72 (emphasis added)

 

What were these 11 Israelis doing trying to impersonate Al Qaeda men?

Infiltrating?...perhaps. Framing?...more likely. But the important

precedent to understand is this: Israeli agents were once caught red

handed impersonating Muslim hijackers! [...]

 

Now about Mohamed Atta, you know, the so-called "ring leader". There are

a number of inconsistencies with that story as well. Like some of the 7

hijackers known to be still alive, Atta also had his passport stolen in

1999, 75 (the same passport that miraculously survived the WTC explosion

and collapse?) making him an easy mark for an identity theft. Atta was

known to all as a shy, timid, and sheltered young man who was

uncomfortable with women. 76 The 5 foot 7 inch, 150 pound architecture

student was such a "goody two shoes" that some of his university

acquaintances in Germany refrained from drinking or cursing in front of

him. How this gentle, non-political mamma's boy from a good Egyptian

family suddenly transformed himself into the vodka drinking, go-go girl

groping terrorist animal described by the media, has to rank as the

greatest personality change since another classic work of fiction, Dr.

Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

 

Atta, or someone using Atta's identity, had enrolled in a Florida flight

school in 2001 and then broke off his training, making it a point to

tell his instructor he was leaving for Boston. In an October 2001

interview with an ABC affiliate in Florida, flight school president Rudi

Dekkers said that his course does not qualify pilots to fly commercial

jumbo jets. 77 He also described Atta as "an asshole". 78 Part of the

reason for Dekker's dislike for Atta stems from a highly unusual

incident that occurred at the beginning of the course. Here's the

exchange between ABC producer Quentin McDermott and Dekkers:

 

MCDERMOTT: "Why do you say Atta was an asshole?"

 

DEKKERS: "Well, when Atta was here and I saw his face on several

occasions in the building, then I know that they're regular students and

then I try to talk to them, it's kind of a PR - where are you from? I

tried to communicate with him. I found out from my people that he lived

in Hamburg and he spoke German so one of the days that I saw him, I

speak German myself, I'm a Dutch citizen, and I started in the morning

telling him in German, "Good morning. How are you? How do you like the

coffee? Are you happy here?", and he looked at me with cold eyes, didn't

react at all and walked away. That was one of my first meetings I had." 79

 

This is eerily similar to the way in which Zacharias Moussaoui (the

so-called "20th hijacker") became "belligerent" when his Minnesota

flight instructor tried to speak to him in French (his first language),

at the beginning of that course. The Minnessota Star Tribune reported on

December 21, 2001:

 

"Moussaoui first raised eyebrows when, during a simple introductory

exchange, he said he was from France, but then didn't seem to understand

when the instructor spoke French to him. Moussaoui then became

belligerent and evasive about his background, (Congressman) Oberstar and

other sources said. In addition, he seemed inept in basic flying

procedure, while seeking expensive training on an advanced commercial

jet simulator." 80 (emphasis added)

 

It truly is an amazing twist of fate that both Atta and Moussaoui both

had American flight instructors who spoke German and French

respectively. Even the great Mossad could not have foreseen such a

coincidence! The real Atta would have been able to respond to his

instructor's German small talk and the real Moussaoui would have been

able to respond to his instructor's French small talk. Atta just walked

away and Moussaoui threw a fit! Neither responded because neither could.

They were imposters, whose faces were probably disguised by a make up

artist. Their mission was to frame the two innocent Arabs who were

probably targeted by the Mossad at random.

 

The imposter was able to create a new Atta by using Atta's stolen

passport from 1999 - the same passport that floated safely to the ground

with a few burnt edges on 9-11. These strange inconsistencies tend to

give support to Mohammed Atta's father's claim that he spoke over the

phone with his son on September 12th, the day after the attacks. 81

Could a group of professionals have abducted and killed the real Atta in

the days following the 9-11 attacks? Mossad agents, posing as "art

students" were arrested after conducting some type of operation in

Hollywood, Florida, the same small town that Atta stayed in! 82 So what

happened to the real Mohammed Atta? To quote his grief stricken father:

"Ask Mossad!".

 

So who, if not the "19 Arabs" was on those planes? That's the million

dollar question! ...

 

(7) Stolen Identities: Saudi Prince says seven alleged Hijackers are

ALIVE (Sept 23 '01)

 

Saudi Prince Says Seven Saudis on FBI List Innocent

 

Reuters News Wire: 09/23/2001 12:25 am ET

 

NO LONGER AT http://abcnews.go.com/wire/world/reuters20010923_147.html

 

BUT ORIGINAL IS PRESERVED in one place only AT

http://web.archive.org/web/20011108050830/http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20010923_147.html

 

DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef said in remarks

published Sunday that seven Saudis named by the FBI as suspects in the

attacks on the United States were innocent.

 

The official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) quoted Prince Nayef as telling the

U.S. television network CNN in an interview that the United States had

not given any confirmation to the kingdom that Saudis had been involved

in the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

 

"As for the names that have been published or provided to us by the FBI,

there are seven names of people who did not participate and are present

in the kingdom and who are known (to us)," SPA quoted Prince Nayef as

saying.

 

"There are more than 10 other names, possibly 15, whom we still have no

detailed information on, either their four (full) names, pictures,

passports or personal identity cards, to be able to verify if they are

Saudis or not," he said. [...]

 

Saudi newspapers have published interviews and pictures of at least five

of those who appeared on the FBI list since it was released Friday.

 

Many Saudis share the same name, reflecting their common membership of

large tribes. But some who share the same name as the suspects were

alarmed to see their own faces staring back at them from newspapers and

television networks which published photographs and personal details of

the alleged perpetrators.

 

Copyright 2001 Reuters News Service. All rights reserved. This material

may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

 

(8) Stolen Identities: UK Telegraph interviews four 9/11 Hijackers,

ALIVE (Sept 23, '01)

 

{The Telegraph assumes that their identities were stolen by Bin Laden.

The prospect that Mossad might have done it is not considered. Yet, New

Zealand broke off diplomatic relations with Israel over Mossad using its

passports. And the Dubai assassination shows Mossad's track record -

Peter M}

 

Revealed: the men with stolen identities

 

By David Harrison Published: 12:01AM BST 23 Sep 2001

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/1341391/Revealed-the-men-with-stolen-identities.html

 

THEIR names were flashed around the world as suicide hijackers who

carried out the attacks on America. But yesterday four innocent men told

how their identities had been stolen by Osama bin Laden's teams to cover

their tracks.

 

The men - all from Saudi Arabia - spoke of their shock at being

mistakenly named by the FBI as suicide terrorists. None of the four was

in the United States on September 11 and all are alive in their home

country.

 

The Telegraph obtained the first interviews with the men since they

learnt that they were on the FBI's list of hijackers who died in the

crashes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

 

All four said that they were "outraged" to be identified as terrorists.

One has never been to America and another is a Saudi Airlines pilot who

was on a training course in Tunisia at the time of the attacks.

 

Saudi Airlines said it was considering legal action against the FBI for

seriously damaging its reputation and that of its pilots. The FBI

released the list of 19 suicide terrorists three days after the attacks.

 

The statement said that the 19 "have been identified as hijackers aboard

the four airliners". Photographs and personal details were published

around the world with an appeal for "information about these

individuals, even though they are presumed dead".

 

The Saudi Airlines pilot, Saeed Al-Ghamdi, 25, and Abdulaziz Al-Omari,

an engineer from Riyadh, are furious that the hijackers' "personal

details" - including name, place, date of birth and occupation - matched

their own.

 

Mr Al-Ghamdi was named as a terrorist on the United Airlines flight that

crashed in Pennsylvania - a plane said by some experts to have been

heading for the White House.

 

He first knew that he was on the FBI's list when he was told by a

colleague. Speaking from Tunisia, he said: "I was completely shocked.

For the past 10 months I have been based in Tunis with 22 other pilots

learning to fly an Airbus 320. The FBI provided no evidence of my

presumed involvement in the attacks.

 

"You cannot imagine what it is like to be described as a terrorist - and

a dead man - when you are innocent and alive." The airline was angry

too. Officials brought Mr Al-Ghamdi back to Saudi Arabia last week for a

10-day holiday to avoid arrest or interrogation.

 

An official said: "We are consulting lawyers about what action to take

to protect the reputation of our pilots." Mr Al-Ghamdi faced further

embarrassment when CNN, the American television network, flashed a

photograph of him around the world, naming him as a hijack suspect.

 

The FBI had published his personal details but with a photograph of

somebody else, presumably a hijacker who had "stolen" his identity. CNN,

however, showed a picture of the real Mr Al-Ghamdi.

 

He said that CNN had probably got the picture from the Flight Safety

flying school he attended in Florida. CNN has since broadcast a

clarification saying that the photograph may not be that of the accused.

 

Mr Al-Omari, who was accused of hijacking the American Airlines plane

that smashed into the the World Trade Centre's north tower, said that he

was at his desk at the Saudi telecommunications authority in Riyadh when

the attacks took place.

 

He said: "I couldn't believe it when the FBI put me on their list. They

gave my name and my date of birth, but I am not a suicide bomber. I am

here. I am alive. I have no idea how to fly a plane. I had nothing to do

with this."

 

{Question: then who impersonated him at the Flight Safety School? The

FBI had his photo}

 

Mr Al-Omari said his passport was stolen when his apartment in Denver,

Colorado, was burgled in 1995. He had been studying engineering at

Denver University since 1993. He was given a new passport in Riyadh on

December 31, 1995 and returned to America to resume his studies in

January 1996. After graduating last year he returned to Riyadh to join

the electricity authority and later moved to the telecommunications

authority.

 

The other two men accused of being terrorists are Salem Al-Hamzi and

Ahmed Al-Nami. Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a

petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a

holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of

hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon.

 

He said: "I have never been to the United States and have not been out

of Saudi Arabia in the past two years." The FBI described him as 21 and

said that his possible residences were Fort Lee or Wayne, both in New

Jersey.

 

Mr Al-Nami, 33, from Riyadh, an administrative supervisor with Saudi

Arabian Airlines, said that he was in Riyadh when the terrorists struck.

 

He said: "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name

mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of

Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked."

 

He had never lost his passport and found it "very worrying" that his

identity appeared to have been "stolen" and published by the FBI without

any checks. The FBI had said his "possible residence" was Delray Beach

in Florida.

 

Last night the FBI admitted that there was some doubt about the

identities of some of the suspects. A spokesman said: "The

identification process has been complicated by the fact that many Arabic

family names are similar. It is also possible that the hijackers used

false identities."

 

The spokesman declined to say whether the FBI would apologise but added:

"If we have made mistakes then obviously that would be regrettable but

this is a big and complicated investigation."

 

When the list was published Robert Mueller, the FBI director, said that

it was "fairly confident" that the names were not aliases.

 

(9) Mossad uses stolen identities of living people, for Assassinations

(Australia, New Zealand)

 

Mossad's Murderous Reach: The Larger Political Issues

 

by James Petras February 22nd, 2010

 

http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/mossad%E2%80%99s-murderous-reach-the-larger-political-issues/

 

On January 19 Israel's international secret police, the Mossad, sent an

eighteen member death squad to Dubai using European passports,

supposedly 'stolen' from Israeli dual citizens and altered with fake

photos and signatures, in order to assassinate the Palestinian leader,

Mahmoud al Mabhouh. ...

 

Israel has a publicly-stated policy of violating the sovereignty of any

and all countries in order to kill or abduct its opponents. ...

 

Israel's practice of extra-judicial, extra-territorial assassinations,

exemplified by the recent murder of Mahmoud al Mabhouh in a Dubai hotel

room, violates all the fundamental precepts of the rule of law. ==

 

Israel Mossad 'factory' churned out fake Australian passports

 

Friday, 26 February 2010 by Sameh A. Habeeb

 

http://www.paltelegraph.com/world/world-news/4404-israel-mossad-factory-

churned-out-fake-australian-passports

 

Palestine, Feb. 26, 2010 (Pal Telegraph)- A former Mossad officer has

alleged the Israeli spy agency has its own "passport factory" to create

or doctor passports for use in intelligence operations. ==

 

New Zealand broke off diplomatic relations with Israel over Mossad use

of its passports

 

The Mossad hit and Israel's path of self-destruction Hasan Abu Nimah The

Electronic Intifada 25 February 2010

 

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11100.shtml

 

Several years ago, New Zealand, a country of three million people, broke

off diplomatic relations with Israel over the use of its passports by

Mossad.==

 

Israel waging a covert assassination campaign across the Middle East

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7025821.ece

 

Israel is accused of waging covert war across the Middle East Sheera

Frenkel in Jerusalem The Times (Britain) February 13, 2010

 

Israel is waging a covert assassination campaign across the Middle East

in an effort to stop its key enemies co-ordinating their activities.

 

Israeli agents have been targeting meetings between members of Hamas and

the leadership of the militant Hezbollah group, and the Iranian

Revolutionary Guards.

 

(10) Mohamed Atta's father says he's still alive, blames Mossad for 9/11

 

This material is from 2001-2; but should be reviewed in the light of the

identity theft in the Dubai assassination. Mohamad Atta's father now

says that his son has been killed by Mossad, to stop him talking.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Atta

 

Mohamed Atta

 

... Family reaction

 

Atta's father, Mohamed el-Amir Awad el-Sayed Atta, a retired lawyer in

Egypt rejected allegations his son was involved in the September 11

attacks and instead accuses Mossad of having a hand in framing his

son.[28] Atta Sr. rejected media reports his son was drinking wildly,

and instead described his son as a quiet boy uninvolved in politics, shy

and devoted to studying architecture.[89] The elder Mr. Atta also claims

to have spoken with Mohamed by phone two days after the air crashes of

the September 11th. He held interviews with the German news magazine

Bild am Sonntag in late 2002 claiming his son is alive, and in hiding.

Critics [which critics?] have suggested Mr. Atta fabricated his claims

of speaking with his son after September 11, 2001 and saying his son is

alive, in denial of his son's role in the 9/11 attacks.[90][Reference

does not support statement]

 

[edit]Notes 28.^ a b Lappin, Elena (2002-08-29). "Portrait: Atta in

Hamburg" . Prospect. Retrieved 2008-09-16. 90.^ Connolly, Kate

(2002-09-02). "Father insists alleged leader of attack on WTC is still

alive" . The Guardian. Retrieved 2008-09-16. ...

 

This page was last modified on 26 March 2010 at 17:16. ==

 

Father insists alleged leader is still alive

 

Kate Connolly in Berlin

 

The Guardian, Monday 2 September 2002 01.28 BST

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/sep/02/september11.usa

 

The father of Mohammed Atta, the alleged ringleader of the September 11

attacks, said in an interview published yesterday that his son was still

alive.

 

"He is hiding in a secret place so as not to be murdered by the US

secret services," Mohammed el-Amir Atta, 66, told the German newspaper

Bild am Sonntag. He also vehemently denied that his son - believed to

have flown the first plane into the World Trade Centre - had taken part

in the atrocities, blaming them instead on "American Christians".

 

The interview painted a picture of a tortured man who has not come to

terms with his 33-year-old son's death or with the huge crime laid at

his door. He said he feared the US would try to poison him.

 

Speaking from his Cairo home, Mr Atta described hearing about the

attacks after returning from a holiday on the Red Sea on the evening of

September 12. "My daughter called and said she was going to drop in. She

stood at the door and said 'turn on the TV'," he said. Amid images of

the jets crashing into the Twin Towers, he saw his son's passport

photograph.

 

"As I saw the picture of my son," he said, "I knew that he hadn't done

  1. My son called me the day after the attacks on September 12 at around

midday. We spoke for two minutes about this and that.

 

"He didn't tell me where he was calling from. At that time neither of us

knew anything about the attacks."

 

Mr Atta said he did not condone the attacks, but could understand the

hijackers' motivation. "Every day our Palestinian brothers are being

murdered, their houses destroyed. If their relatives were to fly a plane

into the Empire State Building I couldn't hold it against them," he added.

 

Mr Atta called his son a "gentle and tender boy", who enjoyed reading

history and geography books and was nicknamed "Bolbol", or nightingale,

by his parents. ==

 

Atta in Hamburg

 

ELENA LAPPIN

 

Prospect Magazine 20th September 2002 - Issue 78

 

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2002/09/attainhamburg/

 

He is a man with a grudge. In interviews with foreign journalists - to

whom he serves alcohol-free beer - he rants about America, without

answering or listening to questions. He accuses the Mossad of being

responsible for 11th September, and of framing his son, from whom he

claims to have received a phone call, "checking in," 24 and 48 hours

after the attacks. ==

 

(11) Atta's girlfriend: he loved pork chops, was already a licensed

pilot, could speak Hebrew, had been in "some kind of militia"

 

Mohammad Atta's girlfriend Amanda Keller interviewed by Daniel Hopsiker

, author of Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamed Atta the 9-11 Cover-up in

Florida (video)::

 

Mohamed Atta loved pork chops, and 49 other things you may not know

about the 9/11 Florida connection.

 

{visit the webpage to access the links}

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1433886

 

I just finished Daniel Hopsicker's Welcome to Terrorland. He exposes the

cover story of the Florida flight schools, and the ongoing cover-up. ...

And FYI, here are some notes I kept while reading the book:

 

  1. In Venice Florida, Mohamed Atta lived for two months with an American

stripper/lingerie model named Amanda Keller.

 

  1. Atta loved to party. He was out with Keller nearly every night they

were together. He was a heavy drinker, snorted coke, was a stylish

dresser and wore expensive jewelry.

 

  1. According to Keller, Atta loved pork chops.

 

  1. Keller dumped him after he embarrassed her at a night club by

dancing, poorly, atop a speaker ("doing that old 'Roxbury head bob'

thing, you know"?)

 

  1. Atta revenged himself later on Keller by returning to the apartment

they'd shared and killing her cat and kittens, disemboweling and

dismembering them in her apartment for her to find.

 

  1. In Miami, Atta consorted with women known to be linked to the Mafia.

 

  1. Atta's email list included names of people who worked for defense

contractors. One, for instance, worked for Canadian firm Virtual

Prototypes, which helped develop the avionics for F-15, F-22 and B-2.

 

  1. Atta was enrolled as a student at the International Officer's School

of Maxwell Airforce Base, and witnesses recall him having been

introduced around at an officers' club party.

 

  1. Atta was fluent in at least Arabic, English, German, French and Hebrew.

 

  1. One day when Atta was rummaging through his flight bag, Keller got a

look inside. Her words:

 

"The thing the FBI was most interested in was his pilot bag. They asked

about it a lot. He kept it locked, and they wanted to know whether I had

ever seen anything in it. I told them yes. One day he opened it briefly,

and there were a lot of papers in it, and there was a blue log book in a

different language. Mohamed was fluent in almost any language you can

think of. He had a kind of Daytimer in there, too. And a folder with all

these different ID's in it. And that's when I saw one - because it fell

out - a little blue and white thing the size of a driver's license. It

had his picture on it, and it looked like a mug shot, or a prison shot.

And it didn't look like him, and I asked him, 'Who is this?'

 

"And he said, 'that's me.' He told me it had been taken back when he was

in some kind of militia-type deal, like a military-type deal, he said.

He compared it to our military only they teach you different tactics. He

didn't elaborate.

 

"He didn't say where it was from, either. But the writing looked like a

cross between Hebrew and Arabic, those frilly little lines. He told me

he spoke Hebrew. I said bullshit. So he started speaking it, and I guess

he did.

 

"He told me that he went to different countries and studied. He had

pilot's license from several different countries. But all the pictures

looked different. All the names were different. He had a license to fly

from just about every country he had been to. He went to pilot's school

in all these countries."

 

  1. Atta, Keller, a stripper named Linda and two Germans, Peter and

Johan, partied for three days in Key West. Atta paid for everything.

Rented three rooms, one just for the men's luggage, which Keller says

contained drugs. The men had a business meeting the women were not

permitted to attend. Met with people, Keller says, who flew in just to

meet Atta. Somber and quiet after meeting. (Key West Airport a known

drug transit point. The Sheriff used to be under orders to keep the dope

sniffing dogs off airplanes, and at one time even sent patrol cars to

escort the drugs to Miami.) [...]

 

(12) Hijackers' last letter, found in baggage, shows ignorance of Islam

- Robert Fisk

 

What Muslim Would Write: 'The Time of Fun and Waste is Gone'?

 

by Robert Fisk

 

Published on September 29, 2001 in the Independent/UK

 

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0929-07.htm

 

Fearful, chilling, grotesque- but also very, very odd. If the

handwritten, five-page document which the FBI says it found in the

baggage of Mohamed Atta, the suicide bomber from Egypt, is genuine, then

the men who murdered more than 7,000 innocent people believed in a very

exclusive version of Islam - or were surprisingly unfamiliar with their

religion.

 

"The time of Fun and waste is gone," Atta, or one of his associates, is

reported to have written in the note. "Be optimistic ... Check all your

items - your bag, your clothes, your knives, your will, your IDs, your

passport ... In the morning, try to pray the morning prayer with an open

heart."

 

Part theological, part mission statement, the document - extracts from

which were published in The Washington Post yesterday - raises more

questions than it answers.

 

Under the heading of "Last Night" - presumably the night of 10 September

- the writer tells his fellow hijackers to "remind yourself that in this

night you will face many challenges. But you have to face them and

understand it 100 per cent ... Obey God, his messenger, and don't fight

among yourself [sic] where [sic] you become weak ... Everybody hates

death, fears death ..."

 

The document begins with the words: "In the name of God, the most

merciful, the most compassionate ... In the name of God, of myself, and

of my family."

 

The problem is that no Muslim - however ill-taught - would include his

family in such a prayer. Indeed, he would mention the Prophet Mohamed

immediately after he mentioned God in the first line. Lebanese and

Palestinian suicide bombers have never been known to refer to "the time

of fun and waste" - because a true Muslim would not have "wasted" his

time and would regard pleasure as a reward of the after-life.

 

And what Muslim would urge his fellow believers to recite the morning

prayer - and then go on to quote from it? A devout Muslim would not need

to be reminded of his duty to say the first of the five prayers of the

day - and would certainly not need to be reminded of the text. It is as

if a Christian, urging his followers to recite the Lord's Prayer, felt

it necessary to read the whole prayer in case they didn't remember it. ...

 

(13) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -1

 

Subject: Re: 911 Mossad ran Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen

From: David West <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

 

I am sure you know already Peter that there were "no planes/" involved

in the 9/11 incident.

 

See

https://sites.google.com/site/humanevolution2008/clearing-out-1/no-planes-on-911

 

But the sentence here that got my goat more than any other was

"eventually culminate in their being on board four regularly-scheduled

flights originating in Boston, Washington Dulles, and Newark, New Jersey

on 9/11."

 

When Gerard Holmgren researched details of the four planes said to be

involved, he discovered from the government's own BTS statistics that

two of them never took off, but additionally that one of them wasn't

even scheduled that day.

 

Apparently 11th September was the day that one timetable ended, and a

new one started, with one of the named Sunday flights not included in

the new schedule.

 

So we can see that either this report from Wayne Madsen is not properly

researched, or more likely, that the secret services pass fake

information to each other. I believe a copy of the data as shown on the

original BTS website is available from

<https://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa_flts/aa_flts.htm> Serendipity.

 

Of course the 9/11 perpetrators changed the data as soon as this

knowledge became public, but I did see it myself before it was changed,

so I am aware of these facts.

 

(14) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -2

 

Subject: Re: 911 Mossad ran Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen

From: David West <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

 

 > Which two never took off?

 

The two unscheduled flights were AA11 which purportedly hit the North

tower and AA77 which purportedly hit the Pentagon.

 Understanding that no planes were involved solves the major unanswered

mysteries -

 Why the airforce didn't intercept these planes why was no plane wreckage or black boxes ever found why were there no Arabs on any of the flight lists (none of which were issued by the airlines)

 This also helps enormously to work out which stories are true and which

were fake.

 For example Pilotsfor911 is a fake organisation. I wrote to them many times, with no reply, for obvious reasons.

 If you need to get up to speed with the real facts, at least read the

interview below, and maybe see the full details on my website

 https://sites.google.com/site/humanevolution2008/clearing-out-1/no-planes-on-911

 Or ask John Lear of Lear jets what he thinks.

 

(15) 911 No Planes Debate - reply to David West

 I've read what John Lear says.

 But I also did a Skype call with Field McConnell, a former US airforce

pilot (flew F4s & F16s) and former airline captain (747-400).

 The pilot of American 77, which supposedly hit the Pentagon, was a

friend of his.

 In fact, a missile hit the Pentagon.

McConnell says that AA77 was switched and, he says, detonated over the

Atlantic Ocean.

 

Certainly he believes that it took off; his friend the pilot disappeared

that day.

 

This sort of "decoy plane" was first advocated in Operation Northwoods,

in 1961.

 

 


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